woensdag 13 oktober 2010

Waarom het niet meer botert tussen Amerikaanse Joden en president Obama

 
Mijn analyse in een notedop: Obama rende als een jonge hond door de porseleinwinkel van het Midden-Oosten en dacht wel even de sleutel te vinden voor de oplossing van het conflict. Die had hij wellicht van Israel kunnen krijgen in de vorm van concessies, maar alleen als aan Palestijnse en Arabische kant ook concessies worden gedaan in ruil. En die heeft hij niet kunnen krijgen, want hij kon niet echt druk uitoefenen als tegelijkertijd zijn doel is om de banden aan te halen met de relatief 'gematigde' Arabische staten, die hij nodig acht om de Amerikaanse problemen in Irak en Afghanisten en met Iran op te lossen.
 
Nu zit Obama met de scherven en Israel is de gebeten hond...
 
Wouter
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AMERICAN JEWS AND PRESIDENT OBAMA
By Edward Klein with Richard Z. Chesnoff
 
An in-depth look at what went wrong. More importantly, how it happened
 
 
The Jews have three veltn (worlds): di velt (this world), yene velt (the next world), and Roosevelt.
—Judge Jonah Goldstein, the 1945 Republican candidate for mayor of New York City.

In the nearly 80 years since President Franklin Roosevelt launched the New Deal with a pledge to "help the forgotten man," relations between American Jews and the Democratic Party have been as close as lips and teeth. Even as Jews prospered and assimilated into the mainstream of American life, most of them remained loyal to F.D.R.'s liberal vision and refrained from following the pattern of other affluent groups by shifting to the Republican Party. Over the course of the past 20 elections, 75 percent of the Jewish vote has on average gone to the Democratic presidential candidate. As the old saying goes, "Jews earn like Episcopalians and vote like Puerto Ricans."

If further proof of this were needed, it was provided by the 2008 election of Barack Obama. On a key issue for many Jewish voters—support for Israel—the hawkish John McCain had an advantage over Obama, whose past associations with the anti-Semitic Reverend Jeremiah Wright and the Israel-bashing Columbia University professor Rashid Khalidi raised troubling questions. Yet, when the vote was tallied, Obama trounced McCain among Jews by a staggering 57-point margin.

"After decades of involvement in the civil rights movement by American Jews, Obama stirred deep emotions in the Jewish community," Bret Stephens, a deputy editor of The Wall Street Journal's editorial page, told us. "The black-Jewish alliance was shattered in the late 1960s, and Jews have yearned ever since to restore it. Jews felt good about voting for Obama, for not only were they voting for a guy they agreed with and liked, but they were also voting for a kind of redemption."

All this should give comfort to President Obama as his party heads into the fall's hotly contested mid-term elections and struggles to hold on to its majorities in the House and Senate. Faced with public frustration over the flailing economy, high unemployment, massive federal deficits, and out-of-control illegal immigration, Democratic candidates need all the help they can get. And although Jews represent a mere 4 percent of the American electorate, their political activism and fund-raising prowess give them leverage in important battleground states.

There's only one hitch. Today, a sizable number of American Jews are having some serious misgivings regarding Obama. Recent polls of the Jewish community reflect a significant decline in support from 2008, when 78 percent of Jewish voters pulled the lever for him. According to a recent McLaughlin & Associates poll, nearly 40 percent of Jewish voters disapprove of the president's handling of relations with Israel, and a majority of them would now consider voting for someone else for president.

These poll numbers do not begin to measure the depth of displeasure felt by many Jews over President Obama's performance. Their bill of particulars covers a wide variety of complaints, including the president's frosty behavior toward businessmen in general and Wall Street in particular. But what really appears to irritate American Jews is the president's roughhouse treatment of Israel.

Obama has recently backed off from his previous harsh stance toward Israel and he even managed to convince the Israelis and the Palestinians to engage in direct peace talks, replacing the indirect "proximity" talks that had been going on for more than a year. But Obama is still not entirely out of the woods with large segments of the Jewish community. And his awkward comments about the proposed mosque at Ground Zero—he seemed to be in favor of the mosque before he was against it, or at least neutral about it—didn't help.


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Malcolm Hoenlein, executive chairman of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, the coordinating body for 52 Jewish groups, estimates that Obama may have lost the support of as much as one-third of Jewish voters. That may overstate the case, but, as we discovered during interviews with more than a dozen Jewish leaders, many Jews have become so annoyed with the Obama administration that they have closed their wallets and are seriously thinking of sitting out the 2010 election. According to an analysis of Federal Election Commission records by The Washington Post, contributions to Democratic candidates from the financial sector are down 65 percent from two years ago. While much of that is due to the Obama administration's widely perceived hostility to the business community, at least some of it is attributable to the White House's handling of Israel.

"I started breaking with Obama 12 months ago," says Martin Peretz, editor in chief of The New Republic. "And I know that a lot of West Coast Jews are also having buyer's remorse. The gut of it is Israel. Will Jews mobilize for Obama in the fall elections? They might be too embarrassed to come out directly against him. But I'll give you one sign of the times: Chuck Schumer [New York's senior senator] waited a year and a half before he stood up for Israel, and he's been having trouble raising money on Wall Street." (Schumer did not respond to repeated requests for comment.)

"The assumption on the part of the Obama administration is that, because Jews are liberals, they simply will not vote for Republicans," says the Hollywood billionaire Haim Saban, one of the Democratic Party's mega-donors. "Obama can invite the 10 most prolific Jewish campaign bundlers to the White House for a discussion, and give a wonderful speech, and he'll think that this may resolve all his problems with American Jews. And it may. Or it may not."

"The idea that we saw a black president in our lifetime is wonderful," says former New York City mayor Ed Koch. "It conveyed to us that this country has come such a long way. But I never fully accepted that Obama didn't hear his minister [Jeremiah Wright] make those awful anti-Semitic statements over 20 years. I wanted to believe him. I willed myself to believe him…. What he has done is break that trust. Like Humpty Dumpty, once you break it, you can't put it together again."

The Jewish problem with Obama can be traced back to his first full day on the job. On January 21, 2009, he summoned his national-security team to the Oval Office and laid out a tough new policy toward Israel. According to a source who is in touch with the situation, Obama said that, in order to make good on his campaign promise to extricate American troops from the war in Iraq, the U.S. had to create a grand coalition of moderate Muslim states and Israel to isolate Iran, which has made no secret of its ambition to become the nuclear hegemon in the Middle East.

The only way to accomplish that goal, the president said, was to eliminate the poisonous effect of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, which provides Iran with an excuse to stir up trouble. Thus it was a vital national interest of the United States to stop Israel from building settlements in the occupied West Bank and housing in East Jerusalem, and to force the Jewish state to resolve the Palestinian problem.

Previous administrations had made similar noises about bringing peace to the Middle East, and at first Jewish leaders weren't alarmed by the leaks concerning a fundamental change in American policy. However, a clue to Obama's true intentions came in March 2009, when Abe Foxman, the national director of the Anti-Defamation League, met with the president's chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel.

"This is Israel's moment of truth," Emanuel said, according to Foxman. "This president is determined to make peace between Israel and the Arabs."

To many Jews, it seemed highly improbable that a brand-new president would choose to alienate Israel, America's oldest and most loyal ally in the Middle East. But then, in April 2009, when Obama made his first trip overseas, he visited Turkey, a Muslim country, and during a meeting in London he bowed to King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia. Two months later, he returned to the area and made a landmark speech in Cairo, where he announced his intention to seek "a new beginning between the United States and Muslims around the world."

Understandably enough, American Jews were annoyed that the president had failed to include Israel in his trip to the Mideast. But what rankled them even more was that Obama seemed to adopt the Arab narrative to explain the existence of Israel—namely, that Israel deserved to exist because of past Jewish suffering in Europe, particularly during the Holocaust. Nowhere in his Cairo speech did Obama mention the fact that Jews had a 3,000-year history in the Promised Land.

There was no discernible improvement when the president called a meeting of Jewish leaders in July. Fourteen major Jewish organizations were represented, including J Street, the newly formed left-of-center Jewish lobby.

"I agree with your goal to bring peace to the Middle East," Abe Foxman told the president. "But the perception is that you're only pressuring Israel, and not the Arabs." Foxman said the president agreed.

Someone else at the meeting said, "If you want Israel to take risks for peace, the best way is to make Israel feel that its staunch friend America is behind it."

"You are absolutely wrong," the president reportedly replied. "For the past eight years [under the Bush administration], Israel had a friend in the United States and it didn't make peace."

"I came away from the meeting being convinced that the Obama administration has introduced a new strategy and that it's revealing itself in steps," Foxman told us. "Unlike other administrations, this one is applying linkage in the Middle East. It's saying that if you only resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict most of the problems in the Middle East can be ameliorated and the lions will lie down with the lambs.

Another source who attended the meeting also told us, "All the president's advisers on the Middle East, starting with George Mitchell, believe in linkage, and they're telling the president you have to prove to the Arab Muslim world that you are different from previous presidents and that you can separate yourself from Israel, distance yourself from the settlements issue. After all, settlements are something that American Jews don't like anyway, so it's a win-win proposition."

The Anti-Defamation League was the first mainstream Jewish organization to openly criticize the president on the issue of the Middle East. Soon other groups joined in. However, the great majority of Jews remained steadfast behind Obama's liberal agenda. They simply were not ready to criticize their country's first African-American president, in whom they had invested so many of their hopes and dreams.

That is where things stood until March 9 of this year, when a relatively low-level official in the Israeli Interior Ministry issued a permit for 1,600 new housing units for Israelis in the Ramat Shlomo section of East Jerusalem, a neighborhood that has been entirely Jewish for more than 100 years. The ill-timed announcement came the day after Vice President Joe Biden arrived in Israel to help kick-start a round of indirect peace talks between Israel and the Palestinians. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu immediately apologized to Biden, who accepted his expression of regret. But Mahmoud Abbas, president of the Palestinian Authority, called off the "proximity talks."

According to our sources, the next day at the regularly scheduled Thursday breakfast meeting between the president and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Obama made his feelings clear. He was livid. As he saw it, the Israelis had purposely humiliated the vice president and tried to sabotage the administration's peace plan. It was a personal affront. He instructed Clinton to call Netanyahu and read him the riot act.

The following day, during a 43-minute harangue, Clinton delivered a set of ultimatums to Netanyahu. Prefacing each remark with the phrase "I have been instructed to tell you," she demanded that Israel release a substantial number of Palestinian prisoners as a token of goodwill; lift its siege of Gaza; suspend all settlements in the West Bank and Jerusalem; and agree to place the question of the status of Jerusalem up front at the peace-talks agenda.

"If you refuse these demands," Clinton told Netanyahu, according to informed sources, "the United States government will conclude that we no longer share the same interests."

Netanyahu bit his tongue and remained noncommittal about the American demands, though he did eventually agree to ease the blockade of Gaza.

That same Friday, Michael Oren, the Israeli ambassador to Washington, attended a meeting at the State Department and was given a severe dressing-down. Someone who saw Oren that night at a dinner described him as "shaken."

And things did not end there. Ten days later, Netanyahu was invited to the White House, where photographers were banned from the meeting, and the Israeli prime minister was treated less than elegantly.

The White House seemed strangely indifferent to the feelings of resentment that this treatment of Netanyahu aroused in the Jewish community. Furthermore, shortly after Netanyahu returned to Israel, the president risked provoking even greater Jewish outrage by insinuating that American troops were dying in Iraq and Afghanistan because Israelis and Palestinians could not agree to make peace. Conflicts such as the Israeli-Arab one are "costing us significantly in terms of both blood and treasure," the president said.

A perception began to spread throughout the Jewish community that the Obama administration was not only outwardly hostile to Israel but perhaps, without even knowing it, hostile to Jews as well. This thesis was forcefully argued by Jonathan Kellerman, the best-selling suspense novelist and a professor of clinical pediatrics and psychology at the University of Southern California's Keck School of Medicine.

"My personal opinion … is that the bifurcation of Israel and Judaism is structurally fallacious," he wrote. "The Land of Israel is an essential ingredient of Judaism practiced fully. Thus, it is impossible to be anti-Israel and not be anti-Jewish. And in fact, the war being waged against Israel by the Muslim world is, at the core, a religious dispute. Radical Islamists no longer talk about Zionists; they come right out and broadcast their goal of eradicating worldwide Jewry."

The impression of an anti-Jewish bias at the highest echelons of the Obama administration, though unproved, was reinforced in April when James Jones, the retired Marine Corps general who then served as Obama's national-security adviser, began a speech at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy with a joke that was interpreted as flagrantly anti-Semitic.

"I'd just like to tell you a story that I think is true," Jones began. "It happened recently in southern Afghanistan. A member of the Taliban was separated from his fighting party and wandered around for a few days in the desert, lost, out of food, no water. And he looked on the horizon and he saw what looked like a little shack and he walked towards that shack. And as he got to it, it turned out that it was a little store owned by a Jewish merchant. And the Taliban warrior went up to him and said, 'I need water. Give me some water.' And the merchant said, 'I'm sorry, I don't have any water, but would you like to buy a tie? We have a nice sale of ties today.'

"Whereupon the Taliban erupted into a stream of language that I can't repeat, but about Israel, about Jewish people, about the man himself, about his family, and just said, 'I need water, you try to sell me ties. You people don't get it.'

"And impassively the merchant stood there until the Taliban was through with his diatribe and said, 'Well, I'm sorry that I don't have water for you and I forgive you for all of the insults that you've levied against me, my family, my country. But I will help you out. If you go over that hill and walk about two miles, there is a restaurant there and they have all the water you need.' And the Taliban, instead of saying thanks, still muttering under his breath, disappears over the hill, only to come back about an hour later. And walking up to the merchant, he says, 'Your brother tells me I need a tie to get into the restaurant.' "

Although Jones later apologized for his gaffe, many Jews began to wonder if there was something more behind the Obama administration's confrontational approach toward Israel than a simple difference of policy. As a result, they began to take a second look at Obama's past for clues to his current behavior. In particular, they were curious as to how Chicago's bare-knuckle politics had shaped Obama's outlook.

End of Part One

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EDWARD KLEIN is a well-known writer and editor with a distinguished career in American journalism.

After serving an apprenticeship as a copy boy for the New York Daily News, he went on to earn a master's degree from Columbia University's Graduate School of Journalism, which awarded him a traveling fellowship to Japan. There, he learned to speak Japanese and traveled throughout Asia as a foreign correspondent for United Press International. Upon his return to New York, he joined Newsweek, where he became foreign editor and then assistant managing editor with jurisdiction over foreign and military affairs.

From Newsweek, he joined The New York Times. As editor in chief of The New York Times Magazine, he led this flagship publication of the Sunday Times to new heights of public interest and editorial excellence. During his editorship, The New York Times Magazine won the first Pulitzer Prize in its history.

Since leaving The Times, Edward Klein has written many articles for Vanity Fair and other national magazines. For Parade, he wrote "Walter Scott's Personality Parade," the most widely read column in the English language.

JWR contributor and veteran journalist RICHARD Z. CHESNOFF was Senior Correspondent at US News & World Report, and is now a columnist at the NY Daily News and the Huffington Post. A two-time winner of the Overseas Press Club Award and a recipient of the National Press Club Award, he was formerly executive editor of Newsweek International. The paperback edition of his critically acclaimed book, "Pack of Thieves: How Hitler & Europe Plundered the Jews & Committed the Greatest Theft in History" is now on sale.

© 2010, Edward Klein with Richard Z. Chesnoff
 
 
 

Turkse jounalist in boek: IDF schoot enkel uit zelfverdediging op Gazavloot

 
Hieronder een ooggetuige van de Israelische aktie tegen de "Free Gaza" flottielje, die wel een uitnodiging van de VN onderzoekscommissie (Turkel Commissie) zou mogen krijgen!
 
 
 
Wouter
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Turkse jounalist in boek: IDF schoot enkel uit zelfverdediging op Gazavloot
Woensdag 13 Oktober 2010 12:23

De Turkse journalist Sefik Dinç die aan boord was van de Mavi Marmara, het schip waarvan de zogenaamde vredesactivisten op gewelddadige wijze Israëlische soldaten aanvielen en waarbij negen jihadisten om het leven kwamen heeft een boek geschreven over de gebeurtenissen aan boord van het schip dat eind mei deelnam aan de poging om de zeeblokkade van Gaza te doorbreken.

Tijdens een TV-interview zei de Turkse verslaggever dat er geen enkel schot gelost werd, niet vanuit de Israëlische helicopters en niet door de IDF-soldaten voordat hun leven in gevaar kwam. In het interview weerlegt Sefic Dinç daarmee het verhaal van het IHH, de NGO die inmiddels in een aantal landen -ondermeer in Duitsland- op de lijst van terreurorganisaties werd geplaatst. Reporter Dinç zei letterlijk tijdens het interview op Chanel 1 (september 24): "Toen de soldaten in helicopters werden aangevoerd en van daaruit naar het schip afdaalden hebben ze niet geschoten. Het was maar toen ze aangevallen werden en zich realiseerden dat hun vrienden in levensgevaar verkeerden dat ze begonnen te vuren.

Dinç's beschrijving van het voorval en de bijkomende informatie in zijn boek stemmen overeen met de getuigenissen van de IDF-soldaten die aan boord gingen van de Mavi Marmara. Deze beschrijvingen zijn volkomen in tegenspraak met de het verhaal dat geconstrueerd werd door de IHH-aanhangers dat daarboor beroep deed op valse verklaringen van activisten aan boord van het schip. Toch werden die getuigenissen gebruikt om het vooringenomen eenzijdige rapport van de Mensenrechtenraad van de Verenigde Naties op te baseren en naar alle waarschijnlijkheid zullen ook deze valse getuigenissen opduiken in de Turkse rapporten aan de VN-commissie die de feiten onderzoekt.

Hieronder kan u de transcriptie lezen van het vraaggesprek tussen de Turkse journalist en Rafael Sadi, de woordvoerder van de organisatie van Turkse immigranten in Israël.

Interviewer: In uw boek schreef u dat de Turkse regering had moeten voorkomen dat de Gazavloot afvoer, waarom?

Dinç: Israël had verscheidene keren laten weten dat het geen toestemming zou geven om het schip naar de Gazastrook te laten varen. In het licht van die verklaring was het ongeloofwaardig om te denken dat deze boten Gaza zouden bereiken. Daarom hadden ze ook niet vanuit Turkije moeten afvaren maar de dingen liepen nu eenmaal zoals ze gelopen zijn en ze vertrokken desondanks toch.

Interviewer: volgens uw ooggetuigenverslag opende de Israëlische soldaten pas het vuur nadat uit zelfverdediging om omdat de levens van hun medesoldaten in gevaar was.

Dinç: u weet dat ik aan boord van het schip was en ik zag met mijn eigen ogen de soldaten uit de helicopters komen en op het schip neerdalen. Ze hebben geen schot gelost. Het was maar toen de soldaten de weerstand voelden en zich realiseerden dat sommigen van hun vrienden in levensgevaar verkeerden dat ze zijn beginnen schieten.

Interviewer: Heeft u mensen opgemerkt die messen of ijzeren staven gebruikten?

Dinç: Ik heb eigenlijk niet gezien dat er messen getrokken werden maar ik heb wel gezien dat er metalen staven gebruikt werden.

Interviewer: In uw boek geeft u voorbeelden hoe de Israëlische soldaten de opvarenden van het schip humaan behandelden door bij sommigen hun handboeien terug los te maken en ook hoe u in Israël een ontmoeting had met een Jood van Turkse afkomst die u zijn GSM liet gebruiken.

Dinç: De soldaten maakten bij mensen die het daarmee moeilijk hadden de handboeien los, vooral bij oudere mensen en vrouwen maar ook bij mensen die zich niet agressief gedroegen. De man die me zijn GSM liet gebruiken was een Israëlische politieman die perfect Turks sprak. Hij vertelde me dat hij destijds vanuit Istanboel naar Israël kwam. Vervolgens vroeg hij me of ik mijn familie al had kunnen bereiken en of ik een telefoon bij had om ze te contacteren. Ik zei hem dat het niet het geval was en dan gaf hij me zijn mobieltje om mijn familie te verwittigen. Ik wil hem daarvoor nog eens bedanken.

Interviewer: Uw boek is evenwichtig en helemaal niet eenzijdig. Ben je niet bang dat de Turkse regering daar niet blij mee is en dat men u hevig zal bekritiseren?

Dinç: Toen ik aan het boek begon wist ik dat er zaken in voor zouden komen waarvan de leden van het IHH en de Turkse regering liever niet hoort maar ook de Israëlische regering niet.

Interviewer: Bedankt en ik wens u succes met uw verdere carrière als onpartijdig journalist.

 

NGO's niet neutraal als getuigen over Free Gaza vloot


Wanneer Israel en de Palestijnen elk een andere versie geven van een zaak, wordt ten onrechte de mening van mensenrechtenorganisaties vaak als betrouwbaar en doorslaggevend beschouwd. Zij nemen echter vaak vooral het Palestijnse verhaal over, baseren zich op wat Palestijnse bronnen en ooggetuigen zeggen, en beschouwen wat Israel zegt als verdacht. Ze werken zelf ook vaak met Palestijnen en identificeren zich met hun als onderdrukte groep. Betselem en andere organisaties zijn er in het verleden op betrapt dat zij omgekomen Palestijnen ten onrechte als burgers classificeerden, terwijl deze mensen op lijsten van terroristische organisaties stonden.
 
Tijdens de Gazaoorlog bleken zo'n driehonderd gedode Palestijnse 'burgers' in werkelijkheid strijders te zijn. Toch bleven westerse media, de VN en Amnesty International de cijfers hanteren die de lokale Palestijnse mensenrechtenorganisaties naar buiten brachten, gebaseerd op Palestijnse medische bronnen. Niet alleen Israel maar ook maatschappelijke organisaties die zich onafhankelijk noemen, hebben een ideologie en een agenda, zowel in Israel als de Palestijnse gebieden.
 
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Press Release
NGO Monitor
For Immediate Release
October 11, 2010

Contact: Jason Edelstein, 052-861-2129


Turkel Commission to Hear Unreliable NGO Testimony

NGO Monitor Notes Previous Biased Analysis of Groups Scheduled to Testify

Jerusalem - The Turkel Commission, established to investigate the "Free Gaza Flotilla" incident earlier this year, is scheduled to hear testimony on October 13 from NGOs B'Tselem, Gisha, and Physicians for Human Rights - Israel (PHR-I), all of which have a record of political bias and often unsubstantiated allegations directed at Israel's Gaza policy.  NGO Monitor notes that these groups were part of the NGO-led campaign to condemn Israeli actions of self-defense during the flotilla incident. They have also promoted the campaign falsely accusing Israel of "collective punishment" in Gaza, and erased the context of terror.

"Our concern is that the NGOs invited by the Turkel Commission to testify are not credible. Following the flotilla incident, they published misinformation and false allegations against Israel," says Prof. Gerald Steinberg, president of NGO Monitor.  "These groups engage primarily in political advocacy, and often issue distorted claims regarding the situation in Gaza. They should not be seen as sources of expertise. We also urge the commission to refer to guidelines on NGO fact finding in evaluating the NGO presentations."

PHR-I's report to the Commission regarding Gaza health and drinkable water standards is based on statistics simply copied from problematic UN reports and from Al Mezan, a highly unreliable Palestinian NGO. Al Mezan consistently refers to the IDF as the "Israel Occupation Forces (IOF)", erasing the context of Palestinian terror and delegitimizing Israeli self-defense.  Al Mezan frequently manipulates casualty statistics for Gaza, labeling hundreds of Hamas and Islamic Jihad combatants as "civilians." The group also has accused Israel of "slaughtering civilians" and employs Nazi terminology to attack Israel.  Hamas' illegal rocket attacks against Israeli civilians are called "resistance."

"These NGOs have the right to testify, but the Commission and the public should recognize that these groups place primary emphasis on their political agendas," Steinberg continues.  "Their analysis is not reliable, objective, and should not be taken at face value.  The Commission should approach this testimony with a critical ear, and cross-examine the NGO representatives regarding the reliability of their allegations."

In extensive analysis of NGO involvement both during the flotilla incident and in statements afterwards, NGO Monitor noted the following:

- B'Tselem claimed that "information [about extreme violence against soldiers] is based solely on statements of soldiers."  This ignores the clear video evidence of violent activists attacking Israeli soldiers with knives and clubs.

- PHR-I, which also has referred to the IDF as the "Israeli Occupation Forces," released a joint statement after the incident referring to the flotilla as "a humanitarian aid convoy with human rights and peace activists, journalists, and members of parliament." Nowhere in the statement did it reference the connection to the IHH, the main flotilla organizer and a member of Union of the Good, an umbrella of 50+ Islamic organizations that was designated by the US government as "an organization created by Hamas leadership to transfer funds to the terrorist organization."

- Gisha stated, "This incident is proof that despite claims to the contrary, Israel never 'disengaged' from the Gaza Strip but rather continues to control its borders - land, air and sea." However, the idea that Gaza is occupied because Israel still maintains control over the territory's land and sea borders and airspace runs contrary to both the Hague and Geneva Conventions, as well as judicial interpretation of these provisions, which state that the standard of "effective control" refers solely to the exercise by a hostile army of governmental authority - not control of borders.  Thus, the argument that Israel exercises governmental authority in Gaza is entirely political and not based on accepted legal foundations.  Indeed, as Egypt controls the southern border of Gaza, and based upon its occupation of Gaza from 1948-67, using the logic of the NGO analysis, Egypt should be considered to be occupying Gaza.

"The concern is that these groups will use their testimony as another opportunity to further distort the realities of the Middle East," adds Steinberg. "With peace talks underway, this is not the time for more demonization and false allegations targeting Israel that erase the context of Hamas-directed terror.  That does not foster an environment conducive to peace and co-existence."

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Achmadinejad in Libanon op bezoek

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Het is duidelijk dat de pro-Hezbollah en pro-Iraanse krachten in Libanon de overhand hebben gekregen. Verschillende pro-Westerse journalisten en politici hebben de afgelopen jaren aan den lijve ondervonden dat het gevaarlijk is om openlijk kritiek te uiten op Hezbollah of Syrië. De ontwapening van Hezbollah, zoals die is afgesproken bij het einde van de burgeroorlog maar ook is vastgelegd in VN resoluties, is geen onderwerp van debat meer. Het bezoek van Achmadinejad, op uitnodiging van president Suleiman, is een reflectie van de nieuwe machtsverhoudingen en een slecht teken. Libanon lijkt een vazalstaat te worden van Iran, en via Libanon kan Achmadinejad aartsvijand Israel bedreigen en onder druk zetten. Of hij een symbolische steen over de grens gaat gooien is de vraag, maar hij heeft er belang bij dat de situatie aan de grens gespannen is en Israel zich bedreigd voelt. En nee, Israel bezet allang geen Libenees land meer en heeft zich geheel teruggetrokken achter de zogenaamde Blauwe Lijn, de internationaal erkende grens tussen Israel en Libanon. Toch staan er vijftig duizend raketten in Zuid Libanon gericht op Israel. Het lijkt een kwestie van tijd tot de volgende oorlog uitbreekt, met waarschijnlijk meer doden en verwoestingen aan beide kanten.
 
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Clinton: We oppose efforts to destabilize Lebanon

http://www.jpost.com/IranianThreat/News/Article.aspx?id=191262



"We discussed int'l terrorism and how to differentiate it from the resistance," Suleiman says after meeting Iranian president.
 
 
US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said that,"The United States supports the integrity and sovereignty of Lebanon. We reject any efforts to destabilize or inflame tensions within Lebanon," referring to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's arrival in Beirut on Wednesday, AFP reported.

Ahmadinejad met with Lebanese President Michel Suleiman earlier Wednesday and was scheduled to meet with Hizbullah Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah later the same day.


The Iranian president said at a press conference that that Lebanon and Iran are fighting the Zionists together.
"We support Lebanon fully, and we call for the liberation of occupied lands in Lebanon and in Syria," he said.

Ahmadinejad said of Lebanon, "I feel like I am at home, like I am in my country."

The Iranian president presented a gift to the president, which was only described as a "state of the art device owned by only six countries across the globe." He said that the device would be useful for scientific research.

"We seek a unified, modern Lebanon, and we stand by the Lebanese government and people," Ahmadinejad said. "We have both common interests and enemies."

Suleiman went on to thank his Iranian partner for Iran's support, saying, "I assured Ahmadinejad that Lebanon is keen to oblige Israel on implementing UN Security Council resolutions." He continued, "We also discussed international terrorism and how to differentiate it from the resistance."

Speaking about Iran's controversial nuclear program, the Lebanese president said that he stresses "the right of states, including Iran, to acquire nuclear energy and use it for peaceful purposes."

At the press conference, the two presidents announced that they had signed bilateral memoranda of understanding on economic, trade, environmental and energy issues.

Earlier Wednesday, thousands of Lebanese - mostly Hizbullah backers - lined the main highway into the capital from Beirut's airport, where Ahmadinejad arrived Wednesday. Loudspeakers blasted songs as women sold Hizbullah flags and balloons to onlookers.

The Lebanese daily Assafir reported that Ahmadinejad may hold a tripartite meeting with Turkish Prime Minster Tayyip Erdogan and Lebanese Prime Minister Sa'ad Hariri on Friday.
The paper reported that the Iranian president extended his trip so the three can meet "amid major headlines."

Ahmadinejad is expected to visit battlegrounds of the Second Lebanon War in southern Lebanon, including Bint Jbail and Maroun a-Ras on Wednesday and Thursday, and reportedly wants to go to the border with Israel and throw rocks at IDF soldiers.
 
 

Waarom Israel "Ja" moet zeggen tegen het vredesproces

 
Een weldoordacht artikel van Ami Isseroff, een pleidooi voor een tweestatenoplossing.
 
A little reflection will show that a negotiated solution that ends in two states for two peoples is the only sane option for supporters of Israel and for the Israeli government, for the reasons given below. It looks like the only game in town for a peace solution.  it will probably happen whether extremists want it or not. It is, in fact, the only reasonable option for both peoples. Since this is the Middle East after all, skeptics can point out that the sane and reasonable solution doesn't stand a chance. Nonetheless, even in the Middle East, it is unlikely that the collective will of the EU, the USA and Russia will be thwarted.
 
Maar Isseroff is tegelijkertijd te sceptisch om nog echt in vrede te geloven:
 
Realistically, the conflict will probably continue with or without a "peace" agreement. The real choice for Israel is between fighting from the moral high ground, with a few allies, or being isolated as a pariah colonialist warmonger state.
 
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Summary: As much as we all love peace, we need to admit that the current Israeli-Palestinian peace negotiations are a probably a sham. Palestinian leadership can't agree to a real peace settlement that would allow the continued existence of Israel. Instead they have decided to maneuver Israeli leadership into  being blamed for breaking off the negotiations, leaving Israel in an isolated and vulnerable position. The Palestinians will then seek, and get, international backing for a Palestinian state that has no peace agreement with Israel. The concessions that should have been the"price of peace" will be forced out of Israel without a peace agreement.  That is why Israel must always say "yes" to peace initiatives.

Earlier I discussed the reasons why most Zionists and Israelis support peace, and why Israel's long term policy has always supported  peace.

My views are those of most Israelis. Nonetheless, anti-Israel writers have assured everyone that Zionists are really nasty warmongers. Anti-Semites tell the world that the Jews are behind every war. Popular magazines declare that Israelis are not interested in peace. These enemies of Israel have been aided by certain self-proclaimed Zionists who insist that the peace process is bad for Israel, and that Israel must turn down peace negotiations.

Those who oppose the continuation of the peace process need to be honest: Are they really afraid of security threats, or are they really opposed to an extension of settlement construction freeze??  Let's be frank. The settlement construction freeze is a red-herring issue It was devised by the Palestinians  to avoid serious negotiations. The Palestinians have negotiated for years while Israel built new housing in settlements.The Americans and the Palestinians did not call a halt to negotiations.

Certainly, if negotiations break down, there will not be less settlement expansion. The moratorium on construction in the settlements continued for ten months. The Palestinians wasted almost the entire period on deliberately inconclusive indirect talks.  The peace negotiations are an elaborate charade, but they are a charade with a purpose. We have to understand the purpose of the Palestinian tactics in order to understand what the Israeli response must be..

Realistically, if negotiations continue, the freeze on construction in settlements will probably be extended throughout the Obama administration, despite the current temporary "unfreeze," courtesy of the U.S. congressional elections.

So what? We waited nine years until the British left and we could bring new immigrants to Israel. We have waited two thousand years to build in Jerusalem. We have waited two thousand years for a Jewish state. Are we going to give it all up for a few "housing units' in Ariel? If the apartments are not built now, does anyone think Ariel will be given to the Palestinians in a peace deal?  But building the apartments now may put the onus for the failure of the peace negotiations  on Israel, feeding the delegitimization campaign of the Palestinians and their supporters. Rather than a few settlements or a few apartments being called into question, the whole idea of a Jewish state, even a postage-stamp sized Jewish state, is being jeopardized by the new construction.

A little reflection will show that a negotiated solution that ends in two states for two peoples is the only sane option for supporters of Israel and for the Israeli government, for the reasons given below. It looks like the only game in town for a peace solution.  it will probably happen whether extremists want it or not. It is, in fact, the only reasonable option for both peoples. Since this is the Middle East after all, skeptics can point out that the sane and reasonable solution doesn't stand a chance. Nonetheless, even in the Middle East, it is unlikely that the collective will of the EU, the USA and Russia will be thwarted.

The logic of the anti-peace crowd on both sides has a revolting symmetry. They all want a one-state solution. The Arab extremists want an Arab state, and the Jewish extremists  (see Israel-Palestine: The one-state solution returns ) imagine that the single state will be Jewish.  As for unfortunate surplus populations, the Arabs imagine, in the best case, that a Jewish minority will live in "Palestine"  as "dhimmi" or "Arab Jews" in the same way they lived (or not, as was frequently the case) in Arab countries. In the worst case, the Arab "one state" proponents contemplate massive expulsion or genocide. The Jewish extremists evidently imagine that they can wish the Arabs and Muslims out of existence by fiddling  with demographic statistics or sending them to Jordan or other countries that will not have them.

Continued here: The case for peace: Why Israel must say "Yes" to the peace process

Ami Isseroff

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Palestijnen zullen Israel nooit als Joods staat erkennen

 
 
"If the Palestinian leadership will say unequivocally to its people that it recognizes Israel as the homeland of the Jewish people, I will be ready to convene my government and request a further suspension," Netanyahu said while speaking at the opening of the third session of the 18th Knesset.
"The Palestinians wasted 10 months and now they demand to continue the [settlement] freeze. I hope their demand isn't a ploy to avoid the concessions that must be made in order to achieve a peace deal," he said.
 
Het antwoord van de PA op dit voorstel was: 'wij zullen Israel nooit als Joodse staat erkennen'.
En:
 
The PA, meanwhile, reaffirmed its opposition to a temporary freeze of settlement construction and rejected the idea of US assurances to Israel.
 
Kortom, de PA verwerpt ieder compromis en daarmee de mogelijkheid verder te onderhandelen. Men is feitelijk überhaupt tegen onderhandelingen. Men heeft een serie eisen, en die kan Israel inwilligen of niet, daar valt verder niet veel aan te onderhandelen. Dat doet Israel dus niet, al heeft het een aantal concessies gedaan.
Abbas heeft ook al nagedacht over wat te doen als de onderhandelingen officieel vastlopen, en dat is de VS en andere landen vragen om een eenzijdig uit te roepen Palestijnse staat op de pre-1967 wapenstilstandsgrenzen te erkennen. Als een dergelijke staat, zonder vredesverdrag met Israel, wordt erkend, zal dat het conflict verergeren. Het zal een openlijke uitnodiging zijn aan allerlei 'verzetsgroepen' om Israeli's op gebied waar de staat is uitgeroepen aan te vallen, inclusief de oude stad van Jeruzalem.
 
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Palestinian official: PA will never recognize Israel as Jewish state
PA negotiator: Partial construction freeze not enough; PLO official accuses Netanyahu of using freeze-for-recognition proposal to weaken Obama's influence in Mideast and distract from core issues in peace negotiations.
 
By Haaretz Service
Published 09:42 12.10.10 / Latest update 09:42 12.10.10
 
 
The Palestinian Authority will never recognize Israel as a Jewish state, senior Palestinian officials said on Tuesday, after Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu proposed to freeze settlement construction in exchange for that condition.

Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat said that demand could never be accepted, while his colleague Nabil Sha'ath added that the government in Ramallah would not tolerate a partial construction freeze and that the moratorium must also be applied in East Jerusalem.

Senior Palestine Liberation Organization official Yasser Abed Rabo accused Netanyahu of using the proposal to weaken the image of U.S. President Barack Obama in the Middle East.

Rabo also said Netanyahu was begging to destroy the peace process and had made the offer to distract from deliberations on the core issues.

The Palestinian leadership was prompt to reject Netanyahu's proposal when he offered it on Monday.

Nabil Abu Rdainah, spokesman for Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, said a return to U.S.-backed peace talks required a freeze on settlement building by Israel and emphasized that:

"The issue of the Jewishness of the state has nothing to do with the matter."

In his proposal, Netanyahu stressed that Israel was willing to make concessions and that a peace deal and a Palestinian state could be achieved if the Palestinians would be willing to recognize Israel as the Jewish homeland.

"If the Palestinian leadership will say unequivocally to its people that it recognizes Israel as the homeland of the Jewish people, I will be ready to convene my government and request a further suspension," Netanyahu said while speaking at the opening of the third session of the 18th Knesset.

"The Palestinians wasted 10 months and now they demand to continue the [settlement] freeze. I hope their demand isn't a ploy to avoid the concessions that must be made in order to achieve a peace deal," he said.
 
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Abbas to Arab League: Israel has violated all agreements

 
Abbas also sought the backing of the three countries for his intention to unilaterally declare a Palestinian state if the peace process fails.

Israel has effectively abrogated the Oslo Accords and other agreements that were signed with the PLO since 1993, Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas was quoted as saying on Monday.

Abbas's remarks were reportedly made during the recent Arab summit in Libya.

The PA, meanwhile, reaffirmed its opposition to a temporary freeze of settlement construction and rejected the idea of US assurances to Israel.

Chief PLO negotiator
Saeb Erekat quoted Abbas as telling Arab leaders attending the summit that Israel has also scrapped the PA's political, legal, functional and security authorities in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.

"President Abbas stressed to the Arab leaders that Israel has effectively cancelled the Oslo Accords and other agreements signed with the PLO," Erekat told Agence France-Presse.

Erekat said that Abbas also made it clear that the first option the Palestinians would consider if the peace talks fail is seeking US and UN recognition of an independent Palestinian state on the pre-1967 borders.

Abbas, who met with the foreign ministers of Spain, France and Finland in Jordan on Monday, briefed them on the outcome of the
Arab League summit in Libya and his position regarding the future of the peace talks.

Abbas also sought the backing of the three countries for his intention to unilaterally declare a Palestinian state if the peace process fails.

Following the meeting, Erekat said that Israel alone would be held responsible for the failure of the peace talks if it continued to insist on building in the settlements.

He said that the Palestinians were expecting the US and EU to heighten pressure on Israel to extend the moratorium on settlement construction.

Nabil Shaath, member of the PA delegation to the peace talks, said on Monday that the PA would not return to the negotiating table unless Israel extended the freeze. He also said that the Palestinians would not accept a temporary or partial cessation of settlement construction, like the 10-month moratorium that expired last month.

"What is needed is a full cessation of settlement activities and not a temporary one," Shaath told reporters in Ramallah. "How can settlement continue on the lands that were supposed to be traded for peace?" Shaath said that a freeze should also include Jerusalem.

He also threatened that the Palestinians would dissolve the PA and make Israel responsible for the West Bank and Gaza Strip population if the peace talks failed. This contradicts statements made by Erekat a day earlier. Erekat was quoted as saying that Abbas had no plans to resign or dismantle the PA.

Shaath said that the Palestinians were not interested in returning to the cycle of conflict, "although they maintained the legitimate right to resist the occupation."

The PLO negotiator said that the PA also rejected the possibility that the US would give Israel assurances in return for freezing settlement construction for an additional two months.

 
 

dinsdag 12 oktober 2010

Eed van trouw: hoe een goedbedoeld plan Israel de das omdoet

 
De redenering is dat Israel de natiestaat van het Joodse volk is en daarom Joden er niet nog een speciale trouw aan hoeven zweren, maar in de praktijk is zo'n onderscheid niet houdbaar en niet goed te praten. Iedereen die staatsburger wordt moet dezelfde eed afleggen. Bovendien staan helaas lang niet alle Joden achter Israel, dus als het doel is om antizionisten ervan te weerhouden het staatsburgerschap aan te vragen, dan moet je Joden niet uitsluiten.
Ik snap het idee wel van die wet, maar deel de kritiek van Isser hieronder (en vele anderen) dat deze wet meer schade zal aanrichten dan zij goed zal doen. Bovendien los je er het werkelijke probleem niet mee op: veel mensen zijn anti-Israel, ook mensen die er wonen en staatsburger willen worden. Dat is met geen enkele eed op te lossen, want er bestaat nou eenmaal zoiets als liegen, ook tijdens het afleggen van een eed. Zo'n eed zal de antipathie wellicht juist versterken.
 
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Hoe een goedbedoeld plan Israel de das omdoet
http://www.israned.com/2010/10/hoe-een-goedbedoeld-plan-israel-de-das.html
 
 
Israël is een Joodse staat, de enige Joodse staat ter wereld en succesvol op vele terreinen. Iets om trots op te zijn. Israël is ook een land met een slechte PR en slecht politiek beleid. Het plan voor een eed aan de Joodse staat is er één van. Dat er een eed moet komen daar ben ik een voorstander van, zolang die voor iedereen geldt. Jood en niet-Jood. Het plan dat er nu ligt is kortzichtig, slecht doordacht en zal terecht door de wereld worden afgeschoten. Het riekt naar een tweedeling binnen de Israëlische maatschappij.
Dat de bedoeling goed is kunnen we opmaken uit de woorden van Netanyahu:

"Unfortunately, there are many today who tried to blur not only the unique connection of the Jewish people to its homeland, but also the connection of the Jewish people to its state," Netanyahu added.
"Democracy is the soul of Israel and we cannot do without it. No one can preach democracy or enlightenment to us," Netanyahu added. "Zionism established an exemplary national state, a state that balances between the national needs of our people and the individual rights or every citizen in the country."
"There is no other democracy in the Middle East," he declared. "There is no other Jewish state in the world. The combination of these two lofty values expresses the foundation of our national life and anyone who would like to join us needs to recognize this."
Iedere letter klopt die Netanyahu zegt, maar leg mij nu eens uit waarom de uitvoering zo volslagen belabberd is:
Cabinet ministers on Sunday approved by a majority vote a controversial proposal which would require every non-Jew wishing to become a citizen of Israel to pledge loyalty to "the State of Israel as a Jewish and democratic state."
Wanneer iedereen voor de wet gelijk is, draag er dan ook zorg voor dat iedereen zich aan die wetten houdt - Jood en niet-Jood. Zo moeilijk kan dat toch niet zijn. Deze wetgeving is prutswerk en zal snel moeten veranderen of worden aangevochten bij de Israëlische Hoge Raad voor dat het meer schade aanricht dan dat het goed doet.
 
 

Israel als uitdrukking van het nationale zelfbeschikkingsrecht van het Joodse volk

 
De schrijver PB beantwoordt de vraag in zijn eigen titel (kan men een bouwstop tegen een bestaanserkenning uitruilen?) niet echt, maar gaat in op de juridische vraag of we met een Joods volk te maken hebben en of Israel daarvan de nationale uitdrukking is.
Het verweer van Abbas dat de bouwstop niets te maken heeft met de erkenning als Joodse staat is sowieso stierenstront: in onderhandelingen gaat het altijd om het uitruilen van punten, geven en nemen heet dat, van punten die voor de één belangrijk zijn tegen punten die voor de ander belangrijk zijn. (Versoepeling ontslagrecht en voortzetting missie in Uruzgan, dat werk.) De geschiedenis van de laatste 30 jaar lijkt te suggeren dat een bouwstop in wat ooit het hart van het koninkrijken Israel en Juda was, de bakermat van het Joodse volk, voor de Israelische regering in elk geval niet veel makkelijker ligt dan de erkenning van Israel als Joodse staat voor de Palestijnen.
 
PB schrijft onder meer:
"Het lijkt mij onbetwistbaar dat wij in objectieve zin kunnen spreken van een Joods volk"
en:
"Maar het bestaan van de Joodse staat zelf als uitdrukking van het zelfbeschikkingsrecht van het Joodse volk mag nooit en te nimmer ter discussie te staan."
 
Helaas is er een onzalige coalitie van antisemieten, moslims en 'kosmopolitische' linkse activisten die beiden nochtans ter discussie stelt. Iedere indianenstam mag van hen een eigen staat hebben, en de Arabieren zelfs tweeëntwintig, maar de Joden, ho maar! Die zijn een religie of ze moeten maar tot het einde der tijden wereldburgers blijven. Of zoiets.
 
PB's tweede punt had iets beter uitgewerkt mogen worden naar mijn smaak: zo was voor WO2 maar een minderheid van de Joden voorstander van die eigen nationale staat, en woonden er tijdens de uitroeping ervan minder dan 10% van de Joden. Desondanks is dit nationale recht destijds door de Verenigde Naties erkend, en duidelijk is dat een overgrote meerderheid van de Joden wereldwijd het bestaan van die staat erkent en ondersteunt. Israel is het enige land met een Joodse meerderheid, en sinds een aantal jaren is ze ook het land met in absolute aantallen de meeste Joodse inwoners.
 
Wouter
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Een bouwstop tegen bestaanserkenning: Een eerlijke ruil?
door PB op 12/10/2010
 
 
De onderhandelingen in het Midden-Oosten liggen weer eens stil. Het splijtpunt was deze keer het aflopen van een tijdelijke bouwstop in nederzettingen in de betwiste gebieden. De Palestijnse Autoriteit weigerde verder te spreken totdat deze bouwstop zou worden vernieuwd. Premier Netanyahu was bereid deze bouwstop te vernieuwen onder de voorwaarde dat de Palestijnse Autoriteit de staat Israel zou erkennen als een Joodse staat: "Palestinian recognition of Israel as a Jewish state is central to the dispute between us [and is necessary for its resolution]. If the Palestinians expect a national state, we can expect our own national state for the Jewish people." De Palestijnse Autoriteit en onderhandelaars waren niet echt onder de indruk van deze eis. Integendeel: "The racist demands of Netanyahu cannot be tied to the request to cease building in the settlements for the purpose of establishing a state." (…) "The topic of the Jewishness of the state is not connected at all to the issue [of the building freeze].'

Mijn vraag is: mag Israel op basis van het internationaal recht vragen om erkenning van het Joodse karakter van haar staat als voorwaarde voor onderhandelingen? Als uitgangspunt wil ik daarvoor nemen artikel 1 lid 1 van het IVBPR (Ook in het IVESCR). Daar lezen wij:

'Alle volken bezitten het zelfbeschikkingsrecht. Uit hoofde van dit recht bepalen zij in alle vrijheid hun politieke status en streven zij vrijelijk hun economische, sociale en culturele ontwikkeling na.'

Het zelfbeschikkingsrecht van volken kan gezien worden als een nationale uitdrukking van het zelfbeschikkingsrecht van individuen. Erkenning van de vrijheid en gelijkheid van de ander om zichzelf te zijn, is essentieel voor het onderhouden van een relatie met die persoon. Dat lijkt net zo zeer te gelden tussen volken als tussen personen (zie artikel 2(1) van het VN-handvest). Maar vormen de Joden überhaupt een volk in de zin van artikel 1 lid 1 van het IVBPR? En is de staat Israel dan de politieke uitdrukking van het Joodse volk?

De beantwoording van de eerste vraag is erg belangrijk omdat het Jodendom ook een sterk religieuze associatie heeft. Voor het definieren van een volk zijn zowel subjectieve als objectieve criteria van belang. Het objectieve criterium richt zich op het bestaan van een historische, culturele, godsdienstige en taalkundige identiteit. Het subjectieve criterium richt zich op de politieke wil om een natie te vormen, dus eigenlijk onze tweede vraag. Het lijkt mij onbetwistbaar dat wij in objectieve zin kunnen spreken van een Joods volk, net zoals wij kunnen spreken over een Nederlands volk. De historische en culturele geschiedenis van het Joodse volk gaat het verst terug van alle volkeren.

Is de staat Israel dan de politieke uitdrukking van het Joodse volk? Bij de beantwoording van deze vraag is het niet belangrijk wat de persoonlijke mening is van mensen over natiestaten. Veel kosmopolitisch ingestelde burgers hebben überhaupt bezwaar tegen het idee van een natiestaat met een bepaalde cultuur. Zij zullen een Joodse staat per definitie zien als een vorm van anti-multiculturalisme en nationalisme. Het gaat hier om de juridische vraag of de staat Israel de uitdrukking vormt van het zelfbeschikkingsrecht van het Joodse volk. Hiervoor moeten wij kijken naar het subjectieve criterium: heeft specifiek het Joodse volk de politieke wil geuit om een Joodse staat te vormen? Als uitgangspunt bij deze vraag wil ik de onafhankelijkheidsverklaring nemen van de staat Israel (1948):

'The Land of Israel was the birthplace of the Jewish people. Here their spiritual, religious and political identity was shaped. Here they first attained to statehood, created cultural values of national and universal significance and gave to the world the eternal Book of Books. After being forcibly exiled from their land, the people kept faith with it throughout their Dispersion and never ceased to pray and hope for their return to it and for the restoration in it of their political freedom. Impelled by this historic and traditional attachment, Jews strove in every successive generation to re-establish themselves in their ancient homeland.

 (…) On the 29th November, 1947, the United Nations General Assembly passed a resolution calling for the establishment of a Jewish State (…) This recognition by the United Nations of the right of the Jewish people to establish their State is irrevocable. This right is the natural right of the Jewish people to be masters of their own fate, like all other nations, in their own sovereign State. (…) Accordingly we (…) hereby declare the establishment of a Jewish state in Eretz-Israel, to be known as the State of Israel.'

Een duidelijker beroep van een volk op een recht op zelfbeschikking kan men toch eigenlijk niet maken. Het Joodse karakter van de staat blijkt verder uit de politieke symbolen (Davidster en Menora, nationale feestdagen, etc) De Staat Israel is dus volgens het internationaal recht de uitdrukking van het zelfbeschikkingsrecht van het Joodse volk, net zoals de Nederlandse Staat zijn een uitdrukking is van het Nederlandse volk.

Natuurlijk zijn er allerlei vragen en problemen over de grenzen van de Joodse staat en het zelfbeschikkingsrecht van de Arabische bevolking. Maar het bestaan van de Joodse staat zelf als uitdrukking van het zelfbeschikkingsrecht van het Joodse volk mag nooit en te nimmer ter discussie te staan.

Dit is ook direct erkend door het internationaal recht. Het oorspronkelijke Palestina-Mandaat (1924) erkent "the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country." Op basis daarvan heeft het Joodse volk het recht om zich in Palestina te vestigen. Op basis van het overgangsrecht van het VN-handvest zijn deze rechten overigens niet opgeheven (art. 80(1) VN-Hv). Bovendien gaat de tweestaten oplossing zelf ook juist uit van het idee van "two states for two peoples," het Joodse volk en het Arabisch-Palestijnse volk.

Netanyahu weet natuurlijk hartstikke goed dat de PA Israel niet wil erkennen als Joodse staat. Dus in die zin blaast hij de onderhandelingen met zo'n eis op. Aan de andere kant vormt het zijn van een Joodse staat de basis voor het bestaansrecht van Israel. De moeite van de PA om de Joodse staat te erkennen geeft eigenlijk aan dat we nog geen centimeter zijn opgeschoten sinds 1948. De PA erkent voor praktische doeleinden de staat Israel, maar niet als Joodse staat omdat dit de terugkeer van de miljoenen vluchtelingen praktisch onmogelijk maakt. Nog recentelijk (April 2009) zei dhr. Abbas op de Palestijnse TV over het erkennen van de staat Israel (van Palwatch.org):

'The 'Jewish state.' What is a 'Jewish state?' We call it, the 'State of Israel.' You can call yourselves whatever you want. But I will not accept it. And I say this on a live broadcast… It's not my job to define it, to provide a definition for the state and what it contains. You can call yourselves the Zionist Republic, the Hebrew, the National, the Socialist [Republic] call it whatever you like. I don't care.'

 

Socrates ontmoet Machmoud Abbas: "Joden zijn geen volk"

 
Er worden van Palestijnse kant tegenstrijdige uitspraken gedaan over de vraag of er in een toekomstig Palestina ook Joden mogen wonen, maar Abbas zei onlangs dat Israeli's niet welkom zijn. De vraag is nogal theoretisch, want in de praktijk zouden Joden niet veilig zijn onder PA bestuur, behalve misschien aanhangers van de Naturei Karta, een radikale antizionistische ultraorthodoxe stroming (een van hun leiders was te gast op de Holocaust ontkenningsconferentie van Achmadinejad). Ook een paar radikale vredesactivisten zouden er wellicht getolereerd worden.
De blog Fresno Zionism probeert een en ander duidelijk te krijgen, en heeft Abbas zelfs bereid gevonden tot een fictief interview.
 
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Socrates meets Mahmoud Abbas

http://fresnozionism.org/2010/10/socrates-meets-mahmoud-abbas/

Here is a poster by the artistic Elder of Ziyon. Is he being fair to Mr. Abbas?

Abbas Apartheid Poster

Elder of Zion apartheid poster

 

I conducted a Socratic thought-interview to find out. Everything Mahmoud Abbas says below reflects a position he has taken recently.

FresnoZionism: Hello, Dr. Abbas. Thank you for agreeing to this fictitious interview.

Mahmoud Abbas: You're welcome. Anything to advance the cause of peace.

FZ: Mr. Abbas, why won't you allow Israelis to live in 'Palestine'?

MA: Obviously because Palestine is the nation-state of the Palestinian People. That means that only Palestinians can live there.

FZ: So is Israel the nation-state of the Jewish People?

MA: No, there is no Jewish people, only a Jewish religion.

FZ: But if there were a state belonging to the Jewish People, then Palestinians couldn't live there?

MA: There can't be, because there isn't a Jewish people.

FZ: But Israel today considers itself a Jewish state. And yet it allows Arabs to live there, and even vote…

MA: It's not my job to say what Israel is. But those Arabs that you mention are Palestinians, and of course they can live there. It's their land.

FZ: So what will happen if there is peace?

MA: The Israelis living in Palestine will have to leave, for one thing.

FZ: What if there is an Arab citizen of Israel living in Ramallah, for example. He's an Israeli. Will he have to leave too?

MA: No, of course not. He is an Arab Palestinian.

FZ: So what you really meant to say in the quotation on the poster is that Jews will not be allowed to live in Palestine?

MA: You said it, not me.

FZ: What else will happen if there is peace?

MA: All the Palestinians in the world will have the right to return to their homes, in Haifa, Acco, Yafo, wherever.

FZ: Even if they never set foot in those places?

MA: Of course. If they are a member of the Palestinian People, they have a right to live in Palestine.

FZ: What makes them members of a people, if they've never lived in Palestine?

MA: It's enough to have a Palestinian father.

FZ: So why isn't someone with a Jewish mother a member of the Jewish people?

MA: I told you: there isn't a Jewish people, only a religion.

FZ: When did the Palestinian people first come to Palestine?

MA: They've always been there.

FZ: What about the Egyptians that moved to the region in the 1830′s? Or the Arabs that immigrated during the Mandate period, because of the improved economy created by the Zionists? Or the Syrian Arabs who came from the Hauran region during the drought of 1932-34?

MA: If they lived in Palestine and were Arabs, then they are Palestinians.

FZ: Hmm… if a dog is yours and the dog is a mother, is it your mother? And are your brothers puppies?

MA: What?

FZ: Never mind, it's an in-joke for philosophy students (quiz: in what dialogue of Plato is this found?). So can Jews be Palestinians?

MA: Of course not!

FZ: But during the mandate period and before, Jews living here were called 'Palestinians'. And nobody talked about a Palestinian People until about 1967. Before that, they were Palestinian Arabs, just like the Palestinian Jews.

MA: Only Arabs are Palestinians. Jews are European colonialists squatting on Arab land.

FZ: But about half the Jews in Israel didn't come from Europe. They were kicked out of Arab countries. Take the Syrian Jews, for example…

MA: Well, they are colonialists, too. If they're Jews, that is.

FZ: So Syrian Arabs can be Palestinians and a member of a people, but Syrian Jews cannot?

MA: Jews aren't people…er, I mean, Jews aren't a people.

FZ: Speaking of refugees, there were more Jewish refugees from Arab countries than there were Arab refugees from the War of Independence. Shouldn't they get compensation?

MA: It wasn't a war of independence, it was a nakba. The Jewish refugees mostly went to the Zionist entity. The Arab refugees still live in horrible camps.

FZ: And why is that? OK, never mind. Let's get back on track. When there is peace, the Jewish settlers will have to leave 'Palestine'. What about the Arab settlers in Israel, like those in the settlement of Umm-El-Faham? Will they have to leave?

MA: No, of course not. They are Palestinians and have the right to live anywhere in Palestine, even in the Zionist entity.

FZ: So, we have 'Palestine' where there are no Jews allowed, and Israel where both Jews and Arabs can live. But Israel will not be a Jewish state, because there isn't a Jewish people. Anyway, all 4-5 million Arabs who claim refugee status will have a right to 'return to their homes' in Israel, giving it an Arab majority. Isn't that a little, er, unfair?

MA: Unfair? Of course not! It's a two-state solution.

 

maandag 11 oktober 2010

Palestijnen zeggen nee tegen aanbod Netanjahoe verlenging bouwstop voor erkenning Joodse staat


Haaretz berichtte maandag over een nieuw voorstel van Netanjahoe:
 
Prime minister says Israel will extend settlement freeze if the Palestinians recognize Israel as a Jewish state, Abbas spokesman says 'issue of Jewishness of the state has nothing to do with the matter.'
 
Het antwoord van de Palestijnen was te verwachten, want als ze Israel erkennen als Joodse staat kunnen ze niet tegelijkertijd vasthouden aan het recht op terugkeer van miljoenen vluchtelingen en hun nakomelingen. Toch is het aanbod van Israel significant, want het legt het eigenlijke probleem bloot: de Palestijnen willen geen werkelijke tweestatenoplossing, geen Joodse en Arabische staat. Het laat ook zien dat erkenning voor Israel belangrijker is dan de nederzettingen, ondanks alle protesten uit die hoek tegen een voortzetting van de bouwstop.
 
RP
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Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu offered Monday to halt settlement construction if the Palestinians were to recognize Israel as a Jewish state, but the Palestinian leadership was prompt to reject the proposal.
"If the Palestinian leadership will say unequivocally to its people that it recognizes Israel as the homeland of the Jewish people, I will be ready to convene my government and request a further suspension," Netanyahu said while speaking at the third session of the opening of the 18th Knesset.
"Just as the Palestinians expect us to recognize their state, we expect reciprocal treatment," said Netanyahu.
"This is not a condition but a trust-building step, which would create wide-ranging trust among the Israeli people, who have lost trust in the Palestinian will for peace over the last 10 years."
 
However, Nabil Abu Rdainah, spokesman for Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, said a return to U.S.-backed peace talks required a freeze on settlement building by Israel.
"The issue of the Jewishness of the state has nothing to do with the matter," Rdainah said.
 
Netanyahu stressed that Israel is willing to make concessions, and that a peace deal and a Palestinian state could be achieved if the Palestinians would be willing to recognize Israel as the Jewish homeland.
"The Palestinians wasted 10 months and now they demand to continue the [settlement] freeze. I hope their demand isn't a ploy to avoid the concessions that must be made in order to achieve a peace deal."
 

 

Palestijns dagblad PA schrijft over vreedzaam samenleven met Israelische buren


Dat komt niet vaak voor: PMW heeft iets positiefs te melden over de Palestijnse media. Zou er dan eindelijk toch iets veranderen? Het volgende vind ik wel een beetje vreemd:
 
After handing over a box containing 20 copies of the Quran, to replace those which had been burned in the mosque, Rabbi Menahem Fruman said: 'This land is the land of peace, and Allah will take revenge on those who set fire to the mosque.'"
 
Zou hij dat echt zo gezegd hebben? Het lijkt mij eigenlijk beter als de staat Israel probeert de daders te vinden en te straffen, met of zonder de hulp van Allah of God.
 
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PMW Bulletin / Oct. 11, 2010
PA daily highlights coexistence
 with Israeli residents

http://palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157&doc_id=3361

by Itamar Marcus and Nan Jacques Zilberdik

Last week a fire was set to carpets and copies of the Quran inside a mosque near Bethlehem. In a positive move, the PA official daily Al-Hayat Al-Jadida gave prominent first page coverage to the solidarity visit of Israeli "settler rabbis" and "dozens of settler-supporters of peace" who came to the mosque to express condemnation of the arson. The PA daily published a picture of the visit and reported that the rabbis brought new copies of the Quran to replace the burned copies.

In another positive note, two days later the same PA daily showed a picture of Israeli - Palestinian coexistence by publishing a picture of a Palestinian harvesting his olives to the accompaniment of an Israeli sitting right next to him under the tree playing his guitar.

The caption to the picture was:
"Settler from Kiryat Arba plays his guitar while a [Palestinian] resident gathers the olive harvest."
[Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, Oct. 8, 2010]

The following are texts from two articles in the official PA daily giving prominence to the rabbis' visit:

 
"Six settler rabbis conducted a solidarity visit to the village of Beit Fajar, near Bethlehem, bringing with them copies of the Quran. Dozens of settler-supporters of peace and hundreds of Palestinians, expressing solidarity, gathered to receive them at the entrance of the village. After handing over a box containing 20 copies of the Quran, to replace those which had been burned in the mosque, Rabbi Menahem Fruman said: 'This land is the land of peace, and Allah will take revenge on those who set fire to the mosque.'"
[Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, Oct. 6, 2010]

"Yesterday, a delegation of Jewish religious leaders visited the town of Beit Fajar and examined the destruction caused by the fire two days ago. They emphasized that the Jewish religion is innocent of the perpetrators.
The delegation included Fruman, rabbi of the settlement of Tekoa - a settlement which is situated on the land of the Taqoa village and in which settlement construction work is continuing, as well as Rabi Aharon Lichtenstein and Rabbi Alex [sic - should be Shlomo] Riskin.
Bethlehem District Governor, Abd Al-Fatah Hamail, received the delegation inside the mosque, and said that the Palestinian side appreciates the visit, but wants real actions that will help towards the capture of the criminals who carried out [the vandalism]. He described the fire in the mosque as a cheap act, far removed from human moral values, and reflecting the degree of hatred and animosity of the perpetrators, who represent a great threat to both Palestinians and Israelis...
Hamail said that the Palestinian people desires a just peace... and emphasized that the three [monotheistic] religions are tolerant religions, far removed from fanaticism and hatred, since all of them have explicitly established freedom of religion and the need for mutual respect.
Hamail called upon the Israeli side to investigate the circumstances of this action, and questioned whether the Israeli security [forces] have really been unable so far to discover the perpetrators.
The delegation of rabbis emphasized that the aim of their visit to the town of Beit Fajar was to express solidarity with the residents and with the Muslims of Palestine. They said that those who had carried out the action are singularly far removed from the Jewish religion, and announced that the expression, "Allah is great" is an expression that belongs to all three [monotheistic] religions, since God is greater than all such actions. They emphasized that they seek peace and justice.
They expressed the hope that peace will be attained in the Holy Land, because the monotheistic religions are based on coexistence and peace."
[Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, Oct. 6, 2010]


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zondag 10 oktober 2010

Palestijnse Autoriteit dreigt met eenzijdig uitroepen Palestijnse staat

 
Arafat heeft al in 1988 een Palestijnse staat uitgeroepen, maar was toen een roepende in de (Tunesische) woestijn. Ook het Front Polisario heeft in de West-Sahara ooit een eigen staat uitgeroepen, en die is zelfs door tientallen landen erkend. Een beetje staat heeft echter controle nodig over haar grondgebied om internationaal serieus te worden genomen, en dat lijkt voor Abbas moeilijk realiseerbaar zonder medewerking van Israel. Doel van het uitroepen van een staat, of het dreigen daarmee, is uiteraard om de druk op Israel op te voeren om concessies te doen.
Ik kan de gevolgen niet geheel overzien, moet ik toegeven, maar misschien moet Abbas het maar gewoon doen. Twee voordelen kan ik wel verzinnen: bij brede erkenning van die Palestijnse staat wordt het de resterende groot-Israel aanhangers misschien eindelijk duidelijk dat ze hun claims op het hele gebied moeten opgeven. En met het uitroepen van die staat op de 'pre-1967 grenzen' kan Abbas daarna niet weer gaan dreigen op een eenstatenoplossing aan te zullen sturen.
 
Wouter
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The Jerusalem Post
Israel: PA threat to declare state unilaterally a 'mirage'
By HERB KEINON
10/10/2010 02:05
http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=190782


Erekat: If US rejects request, we might take up the issue with UN Security Council; Israeli official: There is no substitute for direct negotiations.


Israeli government officials Saturday night dismissed as "unrealistic" and a "mirage" Palestinian threats to get the US or the UN Security Council to recognize an independent Palestinian state within the pre-1967 lines if the peace talks collapse.

The Palestinian Authority announced over the weekend – following the Arab League meeting in Libya that gave the US a 30-day grace period to get Israel to agree to another settlement construction moratorium – that it was considering "alternatives" in case the peace talks collapsed, including seeking US or UN recognition of an independent Palestinian state.

In Libya on Saturday, PA President Mahmoud Abbas asked Arab leaders to consider alternatives to the negotiations, said Saeb Erekat, a top aide to the Palestinian president.

Erekat said Abbas asked Arab leaders "to press the American administration to recognize an independent Palestinian state within the borders of 1967."

If the Americans reject the request, the Palestinians might take up the issue with the Security Council nonetheless, Erekat said.

Abbas told the summit that he did not expect Israel to budge on the settlement issue, and that in the meantime opposition to continuing the talks is building among the Palestinian people, according to two Arab diplomats.

"We have exhausted all our alternatives," the diplomats quoted Abbas as saying. They spoke on condition of anonymity in order to discuss information from the closed session.

A PA official in Ramallah said the Arab League supported the idea of seeking US or UN recognition of a Palestinian state.

"The Palestinian leadership will give the US administration another chance to solve the crisis," he said. "If their efforts fail in the next 30 days, we will go to the Americans and the United Nations."

Israeli officials took the threat in stride.

"There is no substitute for direct negotiations and a historic agreement," one official said. "Everything else is a mirage."

The official, who said these types of threats were part of the PA's diplomacy, added that such proposals have not proven serious when raised many times in the past, and that the PA understood that only a negotiated solution could bring peace.

He added that over the past year the Palestinians have alternated threats to go to the UN Security Council searching for recognition of Palestinian statehood, with the threat of abandoning the two-state idea and instead pursuing a "one-state solution."

Although the official refused to speculate on how the US would react if the PA did carry out its threat to get international recognition for statehood, similar proposals in the past have not been embraced by Washington, which consistently has said it wanted to see a negotiated – rather than imposed – settlement.

There is also considerable doubt as to whether a US president could back such a far-reaching proposal that would certainly face huge opposition in both houses of Congress and among large swaths of the American public.

A call in July 2009 by Javier Solana, the previous EU foreign policy chief, for the Security Council to recognize a Palestinian state by a certain deadline if the sides could not reach an agreement on their own, did not gain serious traction in Washington or, for that matter, in many other capitals around the world.

At that time the Foreign Ministry issued a statement rejecting Solana's proposal, saying that UN Security Council Resolutions 242 and 338, as well as the road map peace plan and previous Israeli-Palestinian agreements established that the solution to the conflict could only be reached through negotiations by the sides.

 
Khaled Abu Toameh and AP contributed to this report.

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Nederlandse douane laat illegale zending voor Iraans atoomagentschap door

 
Dit bericht lijkt het nieuws in Nederland niet te hebben gehaald, terwijl het toch in Nederland gebeurde en vrij opmerkelijk is. 
Er was in de media wel aandacht voor de computerworm die zich zou richten op het saboteren van het Iraanse kernprogramma. - Zou ik ook doen als ik de Mossad was, want met die sancties schiet het niet op zo.....
 
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Nederlandse douane laat illegale zending voor Iraans atoomagentschap door

Fri 08-10-2010
 
 
Nederlandse bedrijven hebben in strijd met EU-sancties tegen Iran onderdelen geleverd voor het nucleaire programma van dat land. Dit blijkt uit een brief van het ministerie van Economische Zaken, bericht de Jerusalem Post. Een van de 2 gewraakte zendingen bevatte een heliumlekdetector die was besteld door de IAEA, maar werd verzonden aan het Iraans atoomagentschap. Demissionair minister van EZ Maria van der Hoeven zegt dat de douaneprocedures zijn aangescherpt. Onderzocht wordt of de exporteurs vervolgd moeten worden.
 
 
IAEA zendt contrabande naar agentschap dat het moet controleren
 
De twee zendingen maakten deel uit van een groter transport met niet verboden goederen. De verboden artikelen werden niet apart geregistreerd en kwamen zo langs de douane; toen dit werd ontdekt hadden ze het gebied van de EU al verlaten. 
 
De betrokkenheid van een VN-orgaan maakt de misser extra pikant. De heliumlekdetecor werd verstuurd in het kader van een samenwerkingsprogramma van het Internationaal Atoomenergie Agentschap (IAEA) en het Iraanse agentschap voor atoomenergie AEOI. 
 
Dat is moeilijk te rijmen met de EU-sancties tegen het Iraanse atoomagentschap. Het is lidstaten, in navolging van de VS, verboden om hier goederen aan te leveren. "De AEOI regelt het Iraanse atoomprogramma en rapporteert rechtstreeks aan de Iraanse president", waarschuwde de Amerikaanse regering. Juist de IAEA moet het Iraanse atoomenergie controleren.
 
In een interview met de Jerusalem Post zei een woordvoerder van de IAEA in Wenen dat 'wij inderdaad een technische samenwerking hebben met Iran en andere staten.' Op de verboden levering van nuleaire onderdelen aan de AEOI had de woordvoerder geen commentaar.
 
Een woordvoerder van het Iran Comite zei tegen de Post: 'het Iran Comite is teleurgesteld dat de sancties onvoldoende worden uitgevoerd, na alle moeite om ze te formuleren en Iran te straffen omdat het niet naar behoren meewerkt met de IAEA. De minister van Economische Zaken moet garanderen dat zij al het mogelijke zal doen om zorg te dragen voor de praktische uitvoering ervan. Het breed publiceren van een lijst met verboden goederen en het vervolgen van degenen die de sancties breken zou een goed begin zijn", voegde hij eraan toe.
 
De andere verboden zending bevatte drukmeters voor de Iraanse olie- en gasindustrie, eveneens verboden door de sancties.