Joden blijven impopulair in moslimlanden

 

Deze resultaten zijn triest, maar niet geheel onverwacht gezien de opruiing in de Arabische media en de aanhoudende populariteit van complottheorieën. Als de media, imams, politici en ‘wetenschappers’ dag in dag uit beweren en berichten dat de Joden overal achter zitten, en de Arabieren onschuldige slachtoffers zijn van het Westen en/of het zionistische wereldcomplot, dan gaan mensen dat ook geloven. Ondertussen is het narratief dat de Arabieren slachtoffers zijn en het Westen schuld heeft aan hun problemen, ook in het Westen populair en wordt dit beeld tegenover Arabieren door grote groepen bevestigd. Zo wordt Israel wel continu bekritiseerd voor haar fouten, maar de Palestijnen zelden want die leven onder een bezetting en kunnen er dus niks aan doen.

 

Een dergelijke houding helpt de Arabische wereld niet, integendeel. We moeten een evenwicht vinden tussen demonisering en knuffelen, en leren realistisch naar deze wereld te kijken. Ook dan zullen deze complottheorieën en vijandbeelden van Joden en het Westen nog geruime tijd populair blijven. Ze komen de regimes daar nou eenmaal bijzonder goed uit en passen ook in het wereldbeeld van de islamisten waarin het Westen en de Joden de vijanden zijn van de moslims.

 

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News flash: Muslim nations still hate Jews!

http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2011/07/news-flash-muslim-nations-still-hate.html

 

 

The latest Pew poll on global attitudes mirrors what we have seen in the past.

Ratings of Jews are dismal in the seven predominantly Muslim nations surveyed. About one-in-ten (9%) Muslims in Indonesia, and even fewer in Turkey (4%), the Palestinian territories (4%), Lebanon (3%), Jordan (2%), Egypt (2%) and Pakistan (2%) express favorable opinions of Jews.

Arab nations also overwhelmingly believe that Judaism is a violent religion:

In the Arab countries surveyed, large majorities of Muslims who say some religions are more prone to violence consider Judaism to be the most violent religion; 97% in Jordan, 93% in Egypt, 88% in the Palestinian territories and 77% in Lebanon share this view.

Outside of the Arab world, more than half of Muslims in Indonesia and Pakistan who say some religions are more violent also cite Judaism as the most violent (56% and 54%, respectively). In Turkey, however, slightly more say Christianity is the most violent religion than name Judaism (45% vs. 41%); in 2005, when the question was last asked, more than twice as many Turkish Muslims named Christianity as the most violent religion as named Judaism (46% vs. 20%).

And, as time passes, fewer and fewer Muslims believe that 9/11 was done by Arabs!

 

When asked about the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, few among the Muslim publics surveyed believe these acts were carried out by groups of Arabs. The highest percentage who believe that Arabs were culpable for the 9/11 attacks is found in Lebanon, where 28% of Muslims believe this to be true, with roughly comparable numbers of Sunni (31%) and Shia (26%) agreeing on this point. A similar proportion of Israeli Muslims (27%) also say groups of Arabs conducted the attacks.

In the other predominantly Muslim countries surveyed, fewer than one-in-four Muslims accept that Arabs conducted the attacks on New York and Washington 10 years ago. Pakistanis and Turks are the most skeptical, with just 12% and 9%, respectively, saying that groups of Arabs carried out the 9/11 terrorist acts.

In several of the Muslim nations for which there are trends, skepticism has grown since 2006. Among Jordanians, the percentage of Muslims who believe Arabs were responsible for the terrorist acts has fallen 17 percentage points, compared with five years ago. Over the same period, the percentage of Muslims in Egypt who accept that groups of Arabs carried out the attacks has declined 11 points, while in Turkey it has shrunk by 7 percentage points. In the case of Indonesia and Pakistan, opinions on the matter have changed little since 2006.

 

(h/t CHA, Zach N)

 

 

Op Elsevier wel aandacht voor de enquete waaruit blijkt dat een ruime meerderheid van de Palestijnen een tweestatenoplossing niet ziet zitten, en achter de hadith over het doden van Joden staat.

 

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Palestijnen geen voorstander van 'tweestatenoplossing'

http://www.elsevier.nl/web/Nieuws/Buitenland/306359/Palestijnen-geen-voorstander-van-tweestatenoplossing.htm

maandag 18 juli 2011 17:52

Palestijnen op de Westelijke Jordaanoever en in Gaza zijn niet bereid tot het sluiten van compromissen met Israël. Een overgrote meerderheid verwerpt een tweestatenoplossing en vindt dat de Palestijnse leiders moeten streven naar één Palestijnse staat, zonder Israël.

Witte Huis en Pentagon 
De resultaten van het onderzoek zijn inmiddels gepresenteerd aan vooraanstaande Israëlische politici. Volgende week presenteren de onderzoekers de uitkomsten in het Witte Huis en het Pentagon, meldt The Jerusalem Post.

Dat blijkt uit onderzoek van de Amerikaanse opiniepeiler Stanley Greenberg, voormalig adviseur van onder anderen Democraten Bill Clinton en Al Gore.

Uit de peiling onder ruim duizend Palestijnse volwassenen blijkt dat 34 procent akkoord gaat met een Palestijnse staat naast de huidige staat Israël. 61 procent verwerpt dit idee.

Liedjes
Twee op de drie Palestijnen (66 procent) kunnen leven met een ‘tweestatenoplossing’, zolang dit maar de eerste stap is naar het omvormen van het gehele gebied tot één Palestijnse staat.

Verder komt naar voren dat bijna alle Palestijnen (92 procent) vinden dat Jeruzalem de ongedeelde hoofdstad moet worden van 'Palestina'. 62 procent steunt het kidnappen en gevangen houden van Israëlische militairen en 53 procent vindt dat kinderen anti-Joodse liedjes moeten leren.

Geweld
Het vredesproces met Israël interesseert de meeste Palestijnen nauwelijks. Twee procent van de bevolking vindt dat het vredesproces een topprioriteit moet zijn van president Mahmoud Abbas. Voor ruim acht op de tien heeft het creëren van banen voorrang.

Een meerderheid van de Palestijnen wijst het afschieten van raketten op Israël af. Twee derde geeft de voorkeur aan praten boven gewelddadig verzet. Gematigden zijn vooral te vinden op de Westelijke Jordaanoever. In Gaza steunt de meerderheid van de bevolking wel gewelddadige acties tegen de Joodse staat.

Door Jeroen Langelaar

 

Media negeren slechte uitslag Palestijnse enquete

 

In de Amerikaanse en Britse (zie artikel Just Journalism onder Elder of Ziyon) media was weinig tot niks te vinden over de enquete onder Palestijnen van afgelopen zaterdag, waaruit blijkt dat een ruime meerderheid de tweestatenoplossing afwijst en lieft 92% is tegen deling van Jeruzalem en eist de hele stad, inclusief het Israelische westen, voor de Palestijnen op. Ook een ruime meerderheid staat achter de hadith over het doden van Joden die ook in het handvest van Hamas staat.

Ook in de Nederlandse media werd de enquete genegeerd, behalve in Elsevier.

 

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Scandal: Media hides damning poll that proves PalArab intransigence

http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2011/07/scandal-media-hides-damning-poll-that.html

 

As I predicted, the mainstream media has all but ignored the poll that the Jerusalem Post reported on last week that shows that most Palestinian Arabs want to destroy Israel - using the "two state solution" as a first stage towards that goal. The poll also denies Jewish history and shows that 92% are against even sharing Jerusalem as the capital of two states.

The intransigence is hard to miss in this survey - but the few times that the non-Zionist media mentions the poll, it downplayed or ignored the major results altogether.

Ha'aretz, while it mentioned the results briefly, buried the poll in the end of a story about how the Palestinian Arabs do not want a new intifada.

The Guardian's Harriet Sherwood, also at the very end of a longer article, purposefully ignored the parts of the poll that show that everything she reports is wrong, and instead reported it this way:

 

A recent opinion survey carried out in Gaza and the West Bank by the respected US pollster Stanley Greenberg found that at the top of the priority list for Palestinians were jobs, healthcare, water shortages and education. Mass protests against Israel, and even pursuing peace negotiations, came way down. Asked to choose, two-thirds favoured diplomatic engagement with Israel over violence.

Time magazine's Karl Vick, in a blog entry, mentioned one of the unpalatable results but did all he could to minimize it:

 

But by the same 2 to 1 margin they also oppose the two-state solution that's been the stated goal of negotiations. Most prefer ending up with a single state, in which Palestinians presumably would outnumber Jewish Israelis. The poll numbers shift some (to 44 percent positive) when the question becomes whether they "will accept a two-state solution."

 

Which is of course still a majority against a two state solution. But that is not his focus:

 

The most striking finding, though, was Palestinians' focus on daily life. Job creation was cited by 83 percent of West Bank residents asked what Abbas should make his top two priorities, followed (at 36 percent) by expansion of health care services and ending chronic water shortages.

 

AFP also reported on the poll, although practically no news outlets reproduced their article. Their version is equally guilty of hiding the truth, however, completely ignoring the parts about destroying Israel and highlighting the economic issues.

Outside of right-wing and explicitly Zionist news media (Commentary, a New York Post blog, Hot Air) these were the only mentions of this survey I could find.

The mentions by Time and The Guardian show that the mainstream media is quite aware that the poll exists and what it says. They read the  Jerusalem Post. But it proves that years of their lazy assumptions, their self-righteous op-eds, and their insufferable smugness at pretending to be Middle East experts are all completely wrong - and they cannot abide reporting any facts that contradict their cherished beliefs.

This is more than media bias. This is a scandal.

The Israel Project should release the raw poll results tomorrow, from what I hear. It will be most interesting to see how the media reacts to, or ignores, the full findings.

(h/t Kramerica, CAMERA)

 

 

Poll findings of Palestinian rejectionism unreported

just journalism

Mon. 18 Jul. 2011 @ 11.35 –

 

Poll finding that majority of Palestinians reject two states for two peoples while endorsing religious extremism ignored by British media; Guardian report omits these details, while Independent focuses on Jewish rejectionism instead.

 

On Friday, Just Journalism covered a major new poll on Palestinian attitudes in the West Bank and Gaza. The poll, conducted by face-to-face interviews in Arabic with over a thousand participants, produced several worrying results. As The Jerusalem Post reported, this included a significant majority who reject Israel’s legitimacy as a Jewish state, and agree that the creation of a Palestinian state should be the first step to absorbing the Israeli one:

 

‘Respondents were asked about US President Barack Obama’s statement that “there should be two states: Palestine as the homeland for the Palestinian people and Israel as the homeland for the Jewish people.”

 

‘Just 34% said they accepted that concept, while 61% rejected it.

 

‘Sixty-six percent said the Palestinians’ real goal should be to start with a two-state solution but then move to it all being one Palestinian state.’

 

The only coverage that the poll received in the British media omitted any of the contentious findings. Harriet Sherwood’s ‘Palestine: the flags are already waving but will a declaration of statehood help?’, published in The Observer, concentrates on the build-up to the Palestinian bid for UN recognition of statehood in September. Discussing the possibility of a widespread outbreak of violence if the Palestinian bid is thwarted, Sherwood cites the poll as proof that Palestinians are uninterested in threatening Israel:

 

‘A recent opinion survey carried out in Gaza and the West Bank by the respected US pollster Stanley Greenberg found that at the top of the priority list for Palestinians were jobs, healthcare, water shortages and education. Mass protests against Israel, and even pursuing peace negotiations, came way down. Asked to choose, two-thirds favoured diplomatic engagement with Israel over violence.’

 

Given that the entire article focuses on the Palestinian campaign for statehood, it seems noteworthy that there is no mention of the poll’s findings that the majority of Palestinians see a state as the first stage to removing Israel, which they view as illegitimate.

 

Sherwood’s characterisation of the poll as evidence of Palestinian disinterest in violence is also only partially accurate, given that it found that 73 per cent agreed with a quote from the Hamas charter that calls for the killing of Jews. The relevant section of the charter states:

 

‘The Prophet, Allah’s prayer and peace be upon him, says: “The hour of judgment shall not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them, so that the Jews hide behind trees and stones, and each tree and stone will say: ‘Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him,’ except for the Gharqad tree, for it is the tree of the Jews.”’

 

In addition to the selective reporting in The Guardian, The Independent’s Catrina Stewart chose instead to report on Israeli extremism and rejectionism. In ‘Jewish settlers are terrorising Palestinians, says Israeli general’, published 18 July, Stewart describes how a senior Israeli army commander has denounced ‘Jewish terror’ emanating from a specific settlement in the West Bank.

 

Focusing on the issue of violence perpetrated by settlers, Stewart also mentions that many settlers reject a Palestinian state on religious grounds:

 

‘Human rights groups suggest that the more radical settlers, many of whom oppose a two-state solution on the premise that the whole of Israel is bequeathed to them by God, are agitating against Palestinian moves to seek statehood recognition at the United Nations in September.’

 

Despite devoting an article to Israelis who reject two states for two people on religious grounds, Stewart did not cover the poll findings that suggest similarly rejectionist views are far more widespread on the Palestinian side.

 

 

http://justjournalism.com/the-wire/poll-findings-of-palestinian-rejectionism-unreported/

 

 

Opiniepeiling: 6 van de 10 Palestijnen wijzen tweestatenoplossing af

 

73% of 1,010 Palestinians in W. Bank, Gaza agree with 'hadith' quoted in Hamas Charter about the need to kill Jews hiding behind stones, trees.

Only one in three Palestinians (34 percent) accepts two states for two peoples as the solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, according to an intensive, face-to-face survey in Arabic of 1,010 Palestinian adults in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip completed this week by American pollster Stanley Greenberg.

Elder of Ziyon zegt over deze poll:

This poll is completely at odds with the world's assumptions of a Palestinian Arab people who desire peace with Israel - assumptions that are shaped by media that reports what journalists want to be true rather than what actually is.

If Western leaders understood this survey, they would know that the unilateral declaration of a state planned for September is anything but a peaceful move. They would know that real peace is literally impossible and that "compromise" is not in the Palestinian Arab vocabulary. They would know that any move at the UN makes war more likely, not less.

Velen zullen daar ongetwijfeld tegenin brengen dat de Palestijnen gematigder zullen zijn op het moment dat er een Palestijnse staat is en het beter met ze gaat, maar zo ken ik er ook nog wel een paar. Overigens is vaker uit polls gebleken dat de Palestijnen niet echt voor twee staten zijn, en bijvoorbeeld in grote meerderheid vinden dat alle vluchtelingen en hun nakomelingen naar Israel moeten kunnen ‘terugkeren’ en ook vinden dat de Joden geen volk zijn en een Joodse staat daarom racistisch is (vraag me niet naar de logica). Omdat er in iedere poll ook wel een paar positieve antwoorden staan, of zaken die je positief uit kunt leggen (dat een meerderheid wel wil praten bijvoorbeeld, al wil dat niet zeggen dat ze geweld tegen Israeli’s afkeuren), kunnen de media het zo spinnen dat het hun idee van de redelijke, onschuldige Palestijnen niet tezeer tegenspreekt. Ik ben benieuwd of en wat hiervan in de media te vinden zal zijn. Het zal zeker niet gekoppeld worden aan Palestijnse opruiing en verheerlijking van geweld, verschijnselen die eveneens continu worden gebagatelliseerd. 

 

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6 in 10 Palestinians reject 2-state solution, survey finds

http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=229493

By GIL HOFFMAN  
07/15/2011 04:26 

73% of 1,010 Palestinians in W. Bank, Gaza agree with 'hadith' quoted in Hamas Charter about the need to kill Jews hiding behind stones, trees.

Only one in three Palestinians (34 percent) accepts two states for two peoples as the solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, according to an intensive, face-to-face survey in Arabic of 1,010 Palestinian adults in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip completed this week by American pollster Stanley Greenberg.

The poll, which has a margin of error of 3.1 percentage points, was conducted in partnership with the Beit Sahour-based Palestinian Center for Public Opinion and sponsored by the Israel Project, an international nonprofit organization that provides journalists and leaders with information about the Middle East.

The Israel Project is trying to reach out to the Arab world to promote “people-to-people peace.” The poll appears to indicate that the organization has a difficult task ahead.

Respondents were asked about US President Barack Obama’s statement that “there should be two states: Palestine as the homeland for the Palestinian people and Israel as the homeland for the Jewish people.”

Just 34% said they accepted that concept, while 61% rejected it.

Sixty-six percent said the Palestinians’ real goal should be to start with a two-state solution but then move to it all being one Palestinian state.

Asked about the fate of Jerusalem, 92% said it should be the capital of Palestine, 1% said the capital of Israel, 3% the capital of both, and 4% a neutral international city.

Seventy-two percent backed denying the thousands of years of Jewish history in Jerusalem, 62% supported kidnapping IDF soldiers and holding them hostage, and 53% were in favor or teaching songs about hating Jews in Palestinian schools.

When given a quote from the Hamas Charter about the need for battalions from the Arab and Islamic world to defeat the Jews, 80% agreed. Seventy-three percent agreed with a quote from the charter (and a hadith, or tradition ascribed to the prophet Muhammad) about the need to kill Jews hiding behind stones and trees.

But only 45% said they believed in the charter’s statement that the only solution to the Palestinian problem was jihad.

The survey’s more positive findings included that only 22% supported firing rockets at Israeli cities and citizens and that two-thirds preferred diplomatic engagement over violent “resistance.”

Among Palestinians in general 65% preferred talks and 20% violence. In the West Bankit was 69-28%, and in Gaza, 59- 32%.

Asked whether they backed seeking a Palestinian state unilaterally in the UN, 64% said yes. The number was 57% in the West Bank and 79% in Gaza. Thirty-seven percent said the UN action would bring a Palestinian state closer, 16% said it would set back the establishment of a state, and 44% said it would make no difference.

When asked what Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas’s top priorities should be, 83% said creating jobs. Just 4% said getting the UN to recognize a Palestinian state, and only 2% said peace talks with Israel.

Israel Project president Jennifer Laszlo Mizrahi said she was encouraged that the Arab Spring would bring more accuracy to Arab media and by the 59% of Palestinians who are on Facebook. The Israel Project has 80,723 friends for its Arabic site, which has had 9.5 million page views in two months.

“Some of the numbers in the poll are discouraging, but we are trying to change them,” she said at a Jerusalem press conference in which Greenberg presented the findings.

Greenberg said the survey proved that there was a big need for public education and leadership on the Palestinian side.

Greenberg and Laszlo Mizrahi have presented the findings to President Shimon Peres, opposition leader Tzipi Livni, Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman, Vice Premier Moshe Ya’alon and Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu’s senior adviser, Ron Dermer.

Next week, they have meetings scheduled in the White House and the Pentagon.

Israeli leaders toldGreenberg and Laszlo Mizrahi they were encouraged by Palestinian support for talks.

“The Palestinians want solutions, not revolutions,” Peres told them according to Laszlo Mizrahi.  

Hoe de media de mythe koesteren dat de Palestijnen vrede willen

 

Dit klopt in grote lijnen en raakt aan de kern van het probleem: om vrede te bereiken moet de bevolking aan beide kanten ervan worden doordrongen dat een compromis nodig is. Men mag beide dan liever het hele land voor zich hebben, men moet inzien dat dat niet kan en dat ook accepteren. Daar ziet het vooral aan Palestijnse kant niet naar uit. Overigens heb ik het idee dat de huidige regering in Israel ook wel iets meer kan doen om mensen van de noodzaak van een compromis te overtuigen: een oplossing is bijvoorbeeld moeilijk voorstelbaar zonder enige vorm van deling van Jeruzalem, al begrijp ik dat zolang de PA de Joodse band met deze stad blijft ontkennen dat extra gevoelig ligt. 

 

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How the Media Fosters the Myth Palestinians Want Peace

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/07/06/how-the-media-fosters-the-myth-palestinians-want-peace/ 

 

Evelyn Gordon  07.06.2011 - 8:59 AM

 

A public opinion poll released two weeks ago offers an excellent lesson in how the media fosters the myth the Palestinians want peace.

Here,  for instance, is how DPA and Haaretz reported the poll; here’s The Media Line’s version; here’s AFP. All correctly reported Palestinians prefer incumbent Prime Minister Salam Fayyad to Hamas’ candidate by a two-to-one margin; the first two also noted that 61 percent want the new unity government to follow Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas’ peace policies, while only 18 percent favor Hamas’s policies. The clear implication is most Palestinians are moderates who want peace with Israel: They prefer Fayyad to Hamas and Abbas’ stated support for a deal to Hamas’ vocal opposition.

But here’s the finding  none of these media outlets bothered to report: Asked what the Palestinians’ “most vital” goals were, 40 percent chose securing “the right of return of refugees to their 1948 towns and villages” as the “second most vital Palestinian goal” and another 26 percent deemed it the “first most vital Palestinian goal.” This issue outpolled all the other options in the second-place slot, while only “end the Israeli occupation” outranked it in the first-place slot.

A “return of refugees to their 1948 towns” – i.e. to pre-1967 Israel – is clearly incompatible with a two-state solution: Relocating 4.8 million refugees and their descendants to pre-1967 Israel would, when combined with Israel’s 1.6 million existing Arab citizens, turn Israel into a second Palestinian-majority state, thereby eliminating the world’s only Jewish one. Yet Abbas cannot concede the “right of return” in negotiations when 66 percent of his people deem it one of the two “most vital Palestinian goals”; no leader anywhere could. Thus as long as most Palestinians view the “right of return” as crucial, no peace agreement will be possible.

Public opinion obviously isn’t immutable, but it often requires a concerted effort to change. On the Israeli side, this effort has been made. Both Israeli and international leaders have told Israelis for two decades they must cede the territories for peace, and it worked: Polls now show most Israelis as being willing to cede virtually all the West Bank, whereas 20 years ago, this was a minority opinion.

But no similar effort has been made on the Palestinian side. Not only has no Palestinian leader ever forthrightly told his people they will have to cede the dream of “return” for peace, but few international leaders have. President Barack Obama’s May 19 policy address, for instance, demanded an Israeli return to the 1967 lines but no Palestinian concession on the refugees; he advocated deferring this whole issue until later. The EU similarly demands an Israeli withdrawal to the 1967 lines but only an unspecified “ just, viable and agreed solution” on the refugees.  The hope seems to be ignoring the problem of the refugees will make it go away.

But Palestinian opinion can only be changed by confronting this issue openly. By sweeping it under the rug, the media is ultimately distancing the prospect of peace.

 

62% Israelische Arabieren: 'Joden horen hier niet thuis'

 

De resultaten van deze poll zijn niet erg bemoedigend. Al eerder verschenen polls die de schaal van het wederzijdse wantrouwen bloot legden. Israeli’s zijn op grond van dergelijke enquetes in kranten als Haaretz voor racisten uitgemaakt, en helaas niet geheel onterecht. Maar er is ook een andere kant, die weleens (zeker in media buiten Israel) wordt genegeerd. Zo blijkt dat ruim 62% van de Arabieren in Israel vindt dat Joden er niet thuishoren, en moeten ophoepelen. Israel heeft volgens hen geen bestaansrecht als Joodse staat. En bijna 38% gelooft niet dat de Holocaust heeft plaatsgevonden. Dat bijna een derde van de Joden de Arabieren hun stemrecht wil ontnemen zie ik dan ook vooral als een reactie op dit soort vijandige ideeën van de Arabische minderheid. Wat overigens niet wil zeggen dat ik het goedkeur.

 

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'62.5% of Israeli Arabs see Jews as foreign imprint'

By BEN HARTMAN  
05/19/2011 17:45 

http://www.jpost.com/NationalNews/Article.aspx?id=221355

U. of Haifa study shows deepening Jewish-Arab divide over past decade; 37% of Arabs don’t believe millions died in Holocaust.

Over 62 percent of the Arab citizens of Israel believe Jews are a foreign imprint on the Middle East and are destined to be replaced by Palestinians, and a similar proportion believe that Israel has no right to exist as a Jewish state, according to a nationwidesurvey scheduled for release on Sunday.

The 2010 Arab Jewish Relations Survey, compiled by Prof. Sami Smoocha in collaboration with the Jewish-Arab Center at the University of Haifa, presents what its authors describe as a worrying decline in relations between Jews and Arabs in Israel over the past decade.

The survey found that the percentage of Arab Israelis who believe cash compensation and settlement in a Palestinian state are an alternative solution to the right of return dropped from 72.2% in 2003 to 40% in 2010. Also, the percentage supporting the use of violence to advance Arab causes climbed from 6% in 1995 to 11.5% in 2010.

The survey was compiled from 711 face-to-face interviews with Arab citizens of Israel over the age of 18, and 700 telephone interviews in Hebrew and Russian conducted with Jewish Israelis.

Among Arabs, 71% said they blamed Jews for the hardships suffered by Palestinians during and after the “Nakba” in 1948. The survey also found that the percentage of Arabs taking part in “Nakba Day” commemorations rose from 12.9% in 2003 to 36.1% in 2010. In addition, 37.8% of Arabs polled in the survey said they didn’t believe that millions of Jews had been the victims of a campaign of genocide waged by Nazi Germany.

Among Jewish respondents, 57.7% said they didn’t believe that a disaster of any sort happened to the Palestinians in 1948, and 68.1% expressed their opposition to public Nakba commemorations.

Also, 66.8% said the Palestinians bore the blunt of the blame for the continued conflict between Jews and Arabs.

Among Jewish respondents, 32.6% said they supported a cancellation of the voting rights of Arab citizens, and 16.5% said they were against the rights of an Arab minority to live in Israel.

Prof. Itzchak Weismann, head of the Jewish-Arab Center, said on Thursday that “the deterioration in relations [between Jews and Arabs in Israel] is linked to laws the government recently legislated and the strengthening of radical religious figures on both sides.”

Nevertheless, he said he was surprised to see “how strong the desire is for coexistence in spite of the events of recent years.”

Smoocha said that despite the serious rift, “there is agreement between the majority of Jews and Arabs about living in Israel, and there is still the infrastructure for a shared society.”

He also said that with worsening relations, there is a growing need for the government and NGOs to bridge gaps between the two populations.

 

RELATED:
New TV station ‘to have wide-scale effect’ on Arab sector 
'28% of Israel's Arabs deny Holocaust' 

 

 

Veel sympathie voor extremisten onder Palestijnse Arabieren

Geregeld krijg ik enquetes met verontrustende resultaten te zien wat betreft de ideeën en visies van de Arabische bevolking. Een paar jaar geleden bleek uit een PEW Global Attitudes poll dat 98% van de Jordaniers en Libanezen er antisemitische ideeën op na hield. Ook de steun voor Bin Laden en Hezbollah bleek schrikbarend hoog. Onlangs bleek dat een overgrote meerderheid van de Egyptenaren het vredesverdrag met Israel wil opzeggen en dat de meeste Palestijnen liever een Arabische dictatuur willen en/of shariawetgeving  dan een op Westerse leest geschoeide democratie. Toch blijven velen er in het Westen er vanuit gaan dat de Arabieren de straat op gaan voor vrijheid en democratie, en dat het afzetten van de oude machthebbers die een stukje dichterbij zal brengen. De nieuwste PEW Global Attitudes poll is wat dat betreft niet erg hoopgevend. De steun voor islamitisch fundamentalisme en shariawetgeving is groot, en grote meerderheden zijn anti-Amerika. Hamas wordt door bijna de helft van de bevolking in Egypte en Jordanië positief gewaardeerd, en tweederde van de Palestijnen vindt zelfmoordaanslagen soms of vaak gerechtvaardigd. Ook kan Hezbollah op een steun van meer dan 60% rekenen bij de Palestijnen.

 

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Poll: Palestinian Arabs prefer Al Qaeda to Obama; they still support terror

http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2011/05/poll-palestinian-arabs-prefer-al-qaeda.html

 

 

A new Pew Global attitudes poll reveals once again how those "peace loving" Palestinian Arabs really think.

If you judge how worthy people are to deserve a state by how they feel about violence and Islamism, then the Palestinian Arabs are pretty much the least deserving people in the Middle East.

Let's start off with a quick comparison of two answers:

 

 

28% of Palestinian Arabs have a favorable opinion of Al Qaeda, and only 18% of President Obama.

 

And Hezbollah rates higher among Palestinian Arabs than any other Arabs.

 

 

A plurality of Palestinian Arabs sympathize with Islamic fundamentalists - and a quarter of Israeli Arab (Muslims) agree.

 

 

 

A new state of Palestine will, right off the bat, hate America. A whopping 80% of Palestinian Arabs have an unfavorable view towards the US.

 

 

 

Over a third of PalArabs want a nation that adheres strictly to Shari'a law, and 30% more want it to be influenced by Islamic law. (Jordan's and Egypt's numbers in this question are very troubling for those who want to see a true Arab Spring.)

 

 

No surveyed people support Islamic fundamentalists more than Palestinian Arabs, except for Pakistan.

 

Comparing the answers from Jordan and Egypt to the previous two questions makes it clear that in those countries, people do not define "fundamentalist" as equivalent to "strict adherence to Sharia law." This is something to remember when people claim that those nations do not embrace fundamentalism.

 

 

Hamas' popularity has gone down in the past few years, especially in Gaza, but the movement is still a major force.

 

 

No one loves Hezbollah more than PalArabs.

 

 

Fully two thirds of all Palestinian Arabs believe that suicide terrorism is often or sometimes justified, making them unique among all people in continuing to embrace that form of what they call "resistance." No other country showed a rate of approval of suicide bombing that was even close to that of the "moderate" Palestinian Arabs.

 

And while most Muslim countries have exhibited a steep decline in approval for suicide bombs over the years, the Palestinian Arab enthusiasm for that particularly gruesome method of killing civilians has stayed relatively steady.

 

 

So when we look at whether "Palestine" is ready for statehood, should we trust the World Bank's arcane justifications or should we look at whether the country would contribute or detract from world peace?

As it stands, it is clear that "Palestine" will not make the world a more peaceful place. Quite the contrary.