zaterdag 15 mei 2010

Enquete: haredi meerderheid bedreiging voor Israel

 
Ik vind de uitkomsten eigenlijk nog vrij gematigd, gezien de groeiende invloed van de haredim en het feit dat zij de staat wel veel geld kosten, maar zelf weinig bijdragen en ook voor het merendeel niet in dienst gaan. Het is echter duidelijk dat de verdeeldheid toeneemt, en het gevaar van meer religieuze dominantie lijkt reeël. Uit Jeruzalem trekken de seculieren al jarenlang weg uit onvrede met de dominante aanwezigheid van de ultra-ortodoxen.
Met een steeds groter percentage aan ultra ortodoxen is het niet langer te verkopen dat zij niet in dienst hoeven en niet hoeven te werken voor hun geld.
 
RP
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Poll: Secular public believes haredi majority endangers state
http://www.ynet.co.il/english/articles/0,7340,L-3885786,00.html
 
Gesher poll finds most seculars think state should withdraw benefits to ultra-Orthodox sector
 
Ynet
Published:  05.06.10, 13:37
 
 
A Ynet and Gesher poll has discovered that many secular members of Israel's population are concerned with predictions that the ultra-Orthodox sector will soon be a majority in Israel and believe this constitutes a major risk to the state's existence.
 
The haredim, their education, and their prevalence in the workforce are matters that have caught headlines recently.
 
The poll was conducted among 501 people – a sample of adult Jews living in Jewish cities in Israel.
 
The first question was, "What will you do if Israel becomes mainly ultra-Orthodox?" For 41% the answer was: "It would sadden me out of fear for Israel's existence", while 37% said they would be fine with it, and 12% said they would leave the country because they do not want to live in a "halachic state".
 
Those polled who define themselves as secular expressed more concern for a haredi majority, with 56% of them saying they would fear for Israel's existence. However 87% of religious and 92% of haredim were convinced that the secular minority would not suffer from an ultra-Orthodox majority.
 
Participants in the poll were then asked whether the state should attempt to prevent the demographic tilt. To this, 37% answered that all benefits to haredim should be withdrawn, 32% said nothing should be done because "whatever will be will be", 10% supported encouraging secular immigration, and 10% said they would be pleased with the change.
 
The results show that of the secular people polled, 50% would stop all benefits to haredim, while 52% of religious participants said they would take no action. Of the haredim polled, 75% said they would be pleased with the change.

The third question asked, "Which of the following proposals do you believe would better incorporate haredim into society?"

To this, 40% answered they should serve mandatory army service, 28% preferred national service, 21% recommended occupational training that would allow them to better incorporate into the workforce, 3% called for affirmative action on accepting haredim to jobs, and 4% said the state should not become involved.

The results showed that of the seculars polled, 47% believe mandatory IDF service would help haredim assimilate better, 37% of religious people believe occupational training would help, and 42% of the haredim want affirmative action.
 
Ilan Gael-Dor, general manager of Gesher, responded to the findings by saying, "It is clear to everyone that the haredim currently constitute a significant portion of Israeli society and the non-haredi population is concerned they will 'take over'.

"The poll proves that the Israeli public is open to accept the haredim, but at the same time believes they must take on a larger portion of the national responsibility, through army or national service. At Gesher we believe it is very important to extend the dialogue with the haredim and oppose slogans that only widen the gaps."

1 opmerking:

  1. Is dit een issue? Israel is het land van het Joodse volk. Is dat volk gedefinieerd met "sekulier", wellicht met "homosexueel"zoals sommigen ook al suggereren? Het Joodse volk is gedefinieerd met de cultuur ervan en dat is de Bijbelse cultuur. Dat in het thuisland de Jood terugkeert naar de oude gebruiken van zijn volk was toch te voorspellen? En waarom toch religieuze Joden afbeelden als uitbuiters, die "enkel geld kosten" en "niet in militaire dienst gaan". Beide verklaringen zijn onwaar. Nu er rekening wordt gehouden met de speciale behoeften van streng religieuze mannen gaan deze in toenemende aantallen in militaire dienst en het zijn buitengewoon goede strijders. Kosten zij geld? Betalen religieuze mensen geen inkomstenbelasting? Dragen zij niet bij tot de welvaart van hun land? En vooral, is een Israel dat "sekulier" is levensvatbaar? Israel kan bestaan zolang haar volk bestaat en dat volk is gebonden aan de Joodse cultuur, anders verdwijnt het. Voorbeeld? De landen van Europa die zichzelf doen verdwijnen via opgave van hun religie en cultuur.

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