zondag 6 april 2014

Hoe je cijfers verdraait of wegmoffelt: How Many Palestinians Would Endorse a Jewish State?

 

Een enquete van het Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research laat zien dat een meerderheid van de Palestijnen tegen een framework document is waarin Israel als de staat van het Joodse volk en Palestina als de staat van het Palestijnse volk wordt erkend:

 

42) The Framework document that the American side might present to the parties might include an acknowledgement of the 1967 lines as the a basis for negotiations and East Jerusalem as the capital of the Palestinian state. But it might also ask the Palestinian side to recognize Israel as the state for the Jewish people in return for an Israeli acknowledgement of Palestine as the state for the Palestinian people. Do you think the Palestinian side should accept or reject such a Framework document?

1)  Certainly accept 3.8%

2) accept 28.4%

3) reject 45.2%

4) Certainly reject 16.9%

5) DK/NA 5.6%

 

Het PSR is niet erg objectief, zo blijkt uit haar beschrijving aan het begin van de enquete, en bovengenoemd resultaat kwam dan ook niet voor in de beschrijving van de resultaten.

 

These are the results of the latest poll conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research (PSR) in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip between 20-22 March 2014. The period before the poll witnessed continued Palestinian-Israeli negotiations but with significant instances of sharp disagreements over the contents of the American proposed Framework document. It also witnessed the release by Israel of another group of Palestinian prisoners. Several deadly confrontations between Palestinians and the Israeli army led a growing number of Palestinian martyrs.

 

Het pro-Israelische Commentary vond dit resultaat wel de moeite waard om te vermelden, maar deed dit ook niet echt eerlijk:

 

The Ramallah-based Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research (PCPSR) has just released a new poll, conducted March 20-22 in the West Bank and Gaza, in which one of the polling questions raised this issue:

There is a proposal that after the establishment of an independent Palestinian stateand the settlement of all issues in dispute, including the refugees and Jerusalem issues, there will be mutual recognition of Israel as the state of the Jewish people and Palestine as the state of the Palestinian people. Do you agree or disagree to this proposal?”

The percentage of Palestinians that “certainly agreed” was 3 percent. A total of 58.5 percent disagreed.

 

Bij het aantal mensen dat het voorstel accepteerde wordt alleen het kleine aantal dat ‘certainly agreed’ vermeld. Bij het percentage dat het voorstel verwerpt zijn ‘reject’ en ‘certainly reject’ bij elkaar opgeteld. Ik kan geen andere reden hiervoor bedenken dan dat die 3 % (wat er in feite 3,8 waren, maar laten we niet muggeziften) wel lekker extreem klinkt en dus beter van pas komt in het verhaal. Maar het verhaal is evengoed valide met de volledige cijfers, die duidelijk laten zien dat een meerderheid geen erkenning als Joodse staat wil, ook niet wanneer dat in een breder raamwerk is waarin het vluchtelingenprobleem is opgelost. Daaruit blijkt dat dat dus het punt niet is, en het wel degelijk gaat om het feit dat men geen Joodse zelfbeschikking accepteert, ook niet binnen 67 grenzen, ook niet als er een faire oplossing is gevonden voor de vluchtelingen en Jeruzalem. Hieronder het stuk uit de Commentary.

 

RP

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How Many Palestinians Would Endorse a Jewish State?

Rick Richman | @jpundit04.03.2014 - 12:55 PM

 

 

In “The Real ‘Jewish State’ Story,” Ben-Dror Yemini, a senior Maariv journalistnotes the issue of Palestinian recognition of a Jewish state was not raised first by Benjamin Netanyahu. It was not raised first by the Israeli right. It was not raised recently. It was part of the 2000 Clinton Parameters, which proposed “the state of Palestine as the homeland of the Palestinian people and the state of Israel as the homeland of the Jewish people.”

 

Yemini notes that recognition of a Jewish state is endorsed across the entire Israeli political spectrum, both within and without the governing coalition.

The Ramallah-based Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research (PCPSR) has just released a new poll, conducted March 20-22 in the West Bank and Gaza, in which one of the polling questions raised this issue:

 

There is a proposal that after the establishment of an independent Palestinian state and the settlement of all issues in dispute, including the refugees and Jerusalem issues, there will be mutual recognition of Israel as the state of the Jewish people and Palestine as the state of the Palestinian people. Do you agree or disagree to this proposal?” [Emphasis added].

 

The percentage of Palestinians that “certainly agreed” was 3 percent. A total of 58.5 percent disagreed.

In other words–just as Israel’s Ron Dermer asserted at AIPAC five years ago–the Palestinian refusal to recognize a Jewish state does not involve the refugees. The poll assumed “all issues in dispute” were settled, including the refugees. But even with no other issue remaining on the hypothetical table, a lopsided majority of Palestinians rejected a Jewish state.

 

The Palestinians push a specious “right of return” (which no other refugee group has ever been granted, much less Arab ones from a war the Arabs started). They express faux concern for the Arab minority in Israel, but those Arabs have far more civil and religious rights than they would under a Palestinian state (according to the PCPSR poll, only 31 percent believe people in the West Bank can criticize the PA; only 22 percent believe people in Gaza can criticize Hamas).

 

In 1947, the UN proposed a two-state solution involving an “Arab state” and a “Jewish state.” The Arabs rejected the resolution, rejected a state for themselves, and started a war. They still reject a Jewish state 66 years later. Yemini ends his article as follows:

[A]nyone who justifies the Palestinian refusal is not bringing peace any closer, but rather pushing the chances of a two state solution further away … On this issue [Netanyahu] deserves total support. Not to torpedo peace. But just the opposite. To pave the way to peace.

 

 

 

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